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1973-S LMC_i Swear I See Doubling On The Date... But No DDO Match?

 
 
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 Posted 05/18/2019  10:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Eye4Error to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I only see 1 DDO on this date and it doesn't match up.
I know I have said this before and been wrong... but I swear this is a DDO...no?

Help please...

Edited by Eye4Error
05/18/2019 11:07 pm
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 Posted 05/19/2019  01:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Something in my brain is saying "master die doubling for this year"...COOOOOP...?

Edited: would cause doubling on all mint cents ( Philly, Denver and San Fran.)
Edited by Greasy Fingers
05/19/2019 02:05 am
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 Posted 05/19/2019  01:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eye4Error to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't really learned about master doubling yet, and what exactly that means? All I can gather is it is doubled on a master die and therefore somewhat common for that year?

Thinking I need to spend some time going through coops vaults and reading up on it more to get a better understanding.
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 Posted 05/19/2019  04:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Thinking I need to spend some time going through coops vaults and reading up on it more to get a better understanding.

Yep,as a lot of us should do.
John1
( I'm no pro, it's just my humble opinion )
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 Posted 05/19/2019  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At first I was thinking a metal flow issue keeping the metal from flowing into the devices of the date.
But it looks interesting with the separation on the 973, with notching as well at the bottom of all three and even at the top of the 7.
Very interested to hear others thoughts.

Can you please post full coin images of the obv and rev?
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 Posted 05/19/2019  11:17 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder what issue this would be?
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 05/19/2019  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eye4Error to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I will post some more pics of full coins and devices...soon!

Sorry, my camera is not taking very good pics as of late, and I need to invest in a new one, hopefully something that has better resolution.

But, I do see notching here... but I am thinking I need to read into master doubling, to see if it is an issue for this year?
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 Posted 05/19/2019  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eye4Error to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK Here is an attempt to post more pics of the coin... this is best I could do at the moment.

BTW the color of it is red... LOL (posting the blue hue OBV photo too though because it shows the details a bit better)








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 Posted 05/19/2019  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eye4Error to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe this image of Liberty shows better?

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 Posted 05/19/2019  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like an issue with double lighting? Note the light on each side of the devices. But the devices are not enlarged. So it is normal. Also a light rub on the devices can make an appearance of mark on the devices. There is slight MD also on the date. Note the lower upward cross bar. Bottom of Liberty. Nose is also altered. When you looks at Variety Vista for a DDO, there is only one listed:
http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...3SDDO001.htm
Note how the devices are enlarged.
Wexler lists only one that year. (Different from the other site.
http://doubleddie.com/823881.html
Under the cross bar on the '3'.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 05/20/2019  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This type of 1973 D with this look I have been seeing a lot. Specially the one with AU. I have couple of them that I keep because it look very nice.In My opinion is lighting and just normal coin. I maybe wrong but I have been look through usb scope few of them like this.
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 Posted 05/20/2019  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What makes the devices look larger is the thinned '1' on the date. Over polishing thinned that digit.
Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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