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1993 D LMC Dont Know What To Call This! Its Not PSD But....?

 
 
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 Posted 06/19/2019  5:24 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ccobb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
The dark area is not just discoloration, it is actually a depressed groove. Don't see how it could be PSD because the L in LIBERTY is unaffected!





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 Posted 06/19/2019  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is interesting. Looks like the L is unaffected. Wait for some experts.
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 Posted 06/19/2019  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me it looks like the wrapping machine damage,the lower arm of the L looks slightly flattened.
Just noted that there is another area affected below the Bust as well. so yeh the combination of the damaged area and toning has changed it to what it looks now.
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 Posted 06/19/2019  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seems pretty deep for a wrapping machine.
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 Posted 06/19/2019  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think it is wrapping machine damage. Looks interesting. The reverse looks like a platting error.Maybe the obverse is some kind of platting error also.
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 Posted 06/19/2019  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting.
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 Posted 06/19/2019  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does the "L" look fully coppered..or is the horizonal leg of the "L" dark/black like the groove we're seeing..? If the leg is dark/black, I'd have to guess...plating issue..prior to strike..

Editted: Agreeing with John1...but I'm wondering where he sees the reverse issue?
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 Posted 06/20/2019  04:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Editted: Agreeing with John1...but I'm wondering where he sees the reverse issue?

The "bullseye" look. NGC slabbed one that looks like that and it was discussed here on CCF. I have saved a few I have found CRHing that are in nice condition. Some say it is damage caused by a cigarette lighter.
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 Posted 06/20/2019  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like wrapper damage and the reverse damage by a lighter.
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 Posted 06/20/2019  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From my view point the "L" looks over the incused line...planchet damage.

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 Posted 06/20/2019  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The L of LIBERTY doesn't appear damaged by the incuse curve. The anomaly under the bust at VDB looks similar but with a different coloration and thickness (this part is probably PSD).

I would say defective planchet (before or after the plating process).
The darker color could be discoloration from circulation.
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 Posted 06/20/2019  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looking again on the computer (Previously I was looking on my phone) , the line looks like the planchet was damage before the strike on the Liberty area as the 'L' is not affected.
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 Posted 06/21/2019  07:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ccobb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone!
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