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1964 D LMC DDO Is It Worth Keeping In This Condition?

 
 
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 Posted 06/24/2019  10:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Rookie2018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Very difficult to tell, but I think this is the real deal. Can't really take pictures super close like some of you, but I think I'm seeing doubling on motto (extra fat letters) G and D in GOD have splits on bottom as well as T in TRUST

What do y'all think?




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 Posted 06/24/2019  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see no doubled die. On the tops of the motto, that is die wear. Die wear flows to the closest rim. So will it is enlarged, it is not a doubled die. Here are a few showing the same thing, but even worse:

Note how the devices are at the rim. All caused by a VLDS (Very-Late-Die-State) die. When a coin is showing doubling, the doubling in on the device, not flowing towards rim:

Note there are two coins. The top image is a normal coin, the lower coin is the doubled die. Note the dots on this coin. That is the first place to look for a doubled die on a wheat reverse/ Then note the 'E', 'P' 'L' on the EPU. See how much the devices are enlarge, not towards the rim, but in lines with the devices. I was looking for some examples of DDO's on my images, but I don't have a good example for 1961, but I have a couple images that will work for 1962:


Note the spread on 'TRUST'? The spread is on the center of the devices in the middle on this one. Note the spread is from top to bottom on the devices, but on this example because it is a proof coin, there is no die wear above the devices flowing towards the rim. But even a doubled die can have die wear as that die also wear out until it retires. But you coin is not a doubled die, it is just a normal die with die wear making what you are seeing on the tops of the devices. Hope this helps. If not ask another question. Were all here to help our coin family to learn more as time goes on. This thread not only benefits you, but also all those who read it can benefit.
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 Posted 06/24/2019  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rookie2018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just can't take good enough pictures on my phone. I think it's fs 001. I'm gonna try to retake pictures and see if it'll be better. I swear I can see traces of doubling, but it's dofficult to see
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 Posted 06/24/2019  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rookie2018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I might just be imagining doubled dies haha.
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 Posted 06/24/2019  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Normal coin here.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 06/25/2019  05:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see no DDO. You can buy a clip on magnifier for your phone for not much money. If it was a DDO,it is worth keeping in that condition until you fine a better one.
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 Posted 06/25/2019  07:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mmansell45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it was and it is in that condition just keep it anyway. Just cool to hqve one.
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