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Pawn Shop Find Of The Day - Lafayette Dollar!

 
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 Posted 07/09/2019  5:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add HGK3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I know there is a healthy debate about whether pawn shops are worth our numismatic time.

However, $16 this weekend:








Now, someone tell me why pawn shops are bad for collectors?

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 Posted 07/09/2019  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Applause! Well done!
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 Posted 07/09/2019  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Check Jadey's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Jadey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd take that for $16 all day, any day. Congratulations.
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 Posted 07/09/2019  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joecoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice!
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 Posted 07/09/2019  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice pick-up...As far as pawn shops go,if you know what your looking at..go for it. I picked up a 22 weak D die pair # 3 for less than $20 a few years ago
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 Posted 07/09/2019  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fantastic find!
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 Posted 07/10/2019  01:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent find!


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Now, someone tell me why pawn shops are bad for collectors?

Just ask whoever owned it before.
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 Posted 07/10/2019  07:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joecoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Just ask whoever owned it before.



Just ask whoever it was stolen from (maybe).
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 Posted 07/10/2019  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm seeing some raised blemishes, and poor/missing detail especially in the arm and sword. I suspect, but can't prove, it is a fake. Don't have my attribution guide handy so I can't tell which die pair this is supposed to be.
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 Posted 07/10/2019  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Now, someone tell me why pawn shops are bad for collectors?


Because they're full of fakes
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 Posted 07/10/2019  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And over-priced junk, typically.
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 Posted 07/10/2019  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm by no means an expert on this type, but my first thought was the surfaces seem suspect.
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 Posted 07/10/2019  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm seeing some raised blemishes, and poor/missing detail especially in the arm and sword. I suspect, but can't prove, it is a fake. Don't have my attribution guide handy so I can't tell which die pair this is supposed to be.


All I have are the reverse attributions. I know obverse 2 has a repunched second "S" in STATES (to the east of the "S") and a repunched second "A" in AMERICA (south from the "A"). The OPs coin is not obverse die 2 because it doesn't have the repunched "A." I think obverse die 1 just has the repunched "S" and I think I can see that here.

DuVall A Reverse. Tip of bottom leaf over 1; 14 leaves; long stem points at last 0.

DuVall B Reverse. Tip of bottom leaf between 1 and 9; 14 leaves; average length stem almost straight.

DuVall C Reverse. Tip of bottom leaf over 9; 14 flat leaves; very short stem curved down

DuVall D reverse. Tip of bottom leaf over 9; 15 wide spread leaves; stem curved a little bit up

The OPs coin definitely is a B reverse. I really wish I could find my obverse attribution for obverse die 1, because that's very likely what it is. If it's a DuVall 1B, that would be common and expected.

My gut reaction when I saw the pics was a circulated Lafayette that had been whizzed for jewelry or whatever. I agree, the weak sword does look off, though.

The only counterfeit diagnostic photos I have are for the Serbian counterfeit, and this doesn't match that counterfeit. I don't have diagnostic photos for the gaggle of Chinese counterfeits, though.

That's the best I can do with what I can lay my hands on right now.
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 Posted 07/10/2019  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My wife just walked by and read my last post. She quietly whispered "Dear, you are a nerd" and gave me a smooch and walked off.
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She quietly whispered "Dear, you are a nerd" and gave me a smooch and walked off.


You forgot the customary eye roll behind your back on the way out of the room
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 Posted 07/10/2019  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ fortcollins...you are a lucky man (nerd)..
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