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You V.s. ICCS: 1858 20 Cents: Blundered I In Gratia

 
 
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 Posted 10/13/2019  1:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add J_Luc to your friends list Get a Link to this Message


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 Posted 10/13/2019  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU55
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 Posted 10/13/2019  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd go with AU as well. Some references refer to this coin as "blundered I", but some consider it an alignment mark put there on purpose.
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 Posted 10/13/2019  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU-55 sounds right.
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 Posted 10/13/2019  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add J_Luc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone, your grading skills are spot-on! But unfortunately, ICCS undergraded this one. Even though multiple experts at some highly-respected coin shops have also given it a grade of AU-55, ICCS gave this one an EF-45. Time to break this one out of the flip, so there goes $30
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 Posted 10/15/2019  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tamarin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll go with ICCS on this one. I've owned many high grade twenty cent pieces and this one doesn't compare well. Too much wear on the essential curl above the ear and the lower braid. It is a nice higher grade coin but if it slides into AU you'd be lucky.
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 Posted 10/16/2019  10:05 am  Show Profile   Check TheDeductible's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TheDeductible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU 50 then. No lower than that.
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 Posted 10/17/2019  06:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks mid AU to me.
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 Posted 10/17/2019  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obvious wear on the hair in front of Vic's ear.

Numerous nicks and scratches, which are very hard to pick out from underneath the 'noise' of the blotchy patina; there may be a lot of them or not many,
but it would be far easier for a TPGrader to pick them out when holding the coin in hand, than we can from a single angle screen shot.

The patina makes this coin somewhat of a 'slider' from our point of view, but perhaps not in the hand of a TPGrader.

This coin is a perfect case submitting for grading, and simply accept that grading without question, no matter what that grading may be.

I will say:
AU50-55.
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