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Retained Cud On 1948 D?

 
 
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 Posted 10/17/2019  09:44 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ctrcrazy2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I found this 1948 D that looks like it has a retained cud on the bust, any info would be appreciated, thanks in advance


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 Posted 10/17/2019  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
RIDB:retained interior die break.No CUD.
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 Posted 10/17/2019  10:03 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a LAM IMO
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 Posted 10/17/2019  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ctrcrazy2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the reply new to hunting hard for me to tell the difference
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 Posted 10/17/2019  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinTheTerm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm in the Lam box on this one, if you want to try to match it to other cents from that year that have a RIDB here is the link
http://cuds-on-coins.com/retained-i...u-s-coins-2/
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 Posted 10/17/2019  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a lam to me as well. Nice find.



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 Posted 10/17/2019  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does look like a Lam.
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 Posted 10/17/2019  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks more like a struck through debris. Not in a straight line like lamination should be. Not a die crack or retained die break. (note the left side of the area in question) The outline is not thick like a RIDB would be.
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 Posted 10/17/2019  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm also thinking "struck through" copper debris that is still attached
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 Posted 10/17/2019  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMHO, sharper photos are needed.

The angle and general shape of the right side of the metal blob aren't terribly far from the angle and shape of the lower front of Lincoln's coat, which is surprisingly weak on this coin. Are we sure this isn't just old PMD, masked by heavy post-damage circulation?
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 Posted 10/18/2019  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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sharper photos are needed.

Agreed.
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 Posted 10/19/2019  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ctrcrazy2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some more pictures of area in question Thanks to everyone that has helped so much to learn about coins




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 Posted 10/19/2019  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
See the black line around the area in question. That is there because there is an edge between struck through debris and the design. If this were a die crack, it would be raised, but it is not raised, it is incuse. A die crack would be taller than the design on that area.



Struck through debris:




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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 10/19/2019  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ctrcrazy2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you coop I am going to take it that this one is a keeper
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 Posted 10/19/2019  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are less common than laminations, but most of the time, a strong lamination will have a premium. (the bigger the better) But something new ones collect. Keep them in a tube. I made the mistake in keeping things in 2X2's, and now realized that I spent 5 cents to save a cent. When you see how many books of 20 page plasic sleeves of binders I saved before I did that, Now I warn others not to make the same mistake.
Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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