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1941 Mercury Dime - What's Wrong With This Coin?

 
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 Posted 10/20/2019  10:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1941-Mercu...LH_Auction=1

Some sort of lacquered coat? Maybe clear nail polish? It sure isn't natural!
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 Posted 10/20/2019  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Proof coin?
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 Posted 10/20/2019  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cleaned toned and juiced
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 Posted 10/20/2019  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Check Yokozuna's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Check out that seller's other coins. All of them look to be polished business strikes that were stored in a "winery cellar." The Sulfur Dioxide and Hydrogen Sulfide given off by the wine changes the color of the coins. Read his descriptions and warnings about Third Party Grading.

He also uses PCGS photos as examples of natural toning to compare to his coins.
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Edited by Yokozuna
10/20/2019 10:54 pm
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 Posted 10/20/2019  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This guy is too savvy to accidentally have proof Mercurys for $42. He has polished these with either a clear coat or slick polishing, but no way these are proof coins. I'm not sold on the "wine cellar" toning either. The PGGS "examples only" in his photos is borderline fraud.
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10/21/2019 12:05 am
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 Posted 10/20/2019  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't walk, run away from this seller...dishonest coin doctor....douth if he's even a vet...complete liar...run, run some more than get in a car a drive far away

Edited: One of our members posted a few months back.."Would you sell to a coin doctor" use the search box..He took a Buff nickel and toned the heck out of it...then stated it was in his familys wine cellar...
Edited by Greasy Fingers
10/21/2019 12:01 am
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 Posted 10/21/2019  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Splotchy toning = intentional fake toning.

Almost all of his coins have been doctored.
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 Posted 10/21/2019  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW! After Greasy Fingers brought this to my attention, I did a CCF search, and WOW! This turkey buys coins, artificially tones them and resells them on eBay (in his eBay ad he says they were in a wine cellar for twenty years!). Someone should report him to eBay!

We need to stick together as a Community.. this seller is a badguy! As Greasy Fingers has said, he probably isn't even a vet as he represents. One bad hombre!
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 Posted 10/21/2019  02:01 am  Show Profile   Check Yokozuna's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a coin he has listed as "1934S Peace dollar AU Mint Error PL (Filled S) 3 Ray Multi Stage Toning"




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 Posted 10/21/2019  02:13 am  Show Profile   Check Yokozuna's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This says it all. Sounds like the 20 year toning in the "Winery Cellar" takes about 5 or 6 weeks.

http://goccf.com/t/349163&whichpage=1
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10/21/2019 02:16 am
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 Posted 10/21/2019  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And not a FSB as advertised either.
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 Posted 10/21/2019  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sasquatch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


All of his coins look polished.

His washed out photos are not to be trusted. I never trust ebay sellers who use photos like this.
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 Posted 10/21/2019  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I asked this seller a question about this coin
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1840001776...l_noapp=true

I just asked him straight out if this has been artificially toned. His reply was "Read my description"

So I replied back to him asking him How this coin could have been stored in his Family Wine Cellar from 1963-1984 when it wasn't even minted until 1987. Waiting on a reply to that question.
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 Posted 10/21/2019  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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So I replied back to him asking him How this coin could have been stored in his Family Wine Cellar from 1963-1984 when it wasn't even minted until 1987.
Oops!

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Waiting on a reply to that question.
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 Posted 10/21/2019  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Waiting on a reply to that question.


Here is his answer


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After 28 years in the Marine Corp, I retired in 1985 and continued to buy coins until 1990. The coins were shipped from Put-in-Bay, Ohio to Cleveland in 1990 and stored for an additional 4 years.
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 Posted 10/21/2019  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On the positive side, zero bids on all his coins
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