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What Went Wrong In The Making Of This Fake 1857 Canadian Penny?

 
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 Posted 01/11/2020  4:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Message




A dealer gave me this just for laughs. Obviously cast, and being in white metal it would not have passed in colonial times. I was wondering why the one side is so poor-was there not enough metal put in the mold, so that the cavity did not completely fill?

You can just barely make out the anchors and "Bank Token" "one penny"
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 Posted 01/11/2020  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Check nickelsguy's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
failed casting?
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 Posted 01/11/2020  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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failed casting?


that was my thought too...
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 Posted 01/11/2020  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
another low life idiot exposed?
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 Posted 01/12/2020  12:24 am  Show Profile   Check ainsivalavie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ainsivalavie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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A dealer gave me this just for laughs. Obviously cast, and being in white metal it would not have passed in colonial times. I was wondering why the one side is so poor-was there not enough metal put in the mold, so that the cavity did not completely fill?

You can just barely make out the anchors and "Bank Token" "one penny"

@Oriole:
Do you give me permission to use your photos of this coin for my upcoming book on this series of tokens (Eventually if I need it)?
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01/12/2020 12:28 am
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 Posted 01/12/2020  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say that the white metal got so hot that it released gas bubbles. Maybe they had the "dies" hinged with long handles and heated them with a blow torch.
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 Posted 01/12/2020  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Check Wade's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
lots can go wrong with casting,

loosely packed green sand (sand, coal, bentonite clay, water)
moisture content to high in the sand
zero moisture content in the sand
too small of a sprue (sprue cooled quickly and strangled the flow of hot metal)
metal full of impurities/slag

is this case I would guess the mold/coin orientation was lying flat and not standing vertical on edge

this list goes on and on.

personally I find it really cool & a definite keeper
Edited by Wade
01/12/2020 7:39 pm
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