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To Those Who Think Sellers Charge Too Much For Shipping On Ebay Etc

 
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 Posted 02/13/2020  10:33 am Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
We sell lots on EBay and have a reasonable shipping cost
3.99 tracked first class to anywhere in the USA .
Try buying from an auction house and see what you pay .
I won a single coin lot in the DNW London coin auction this morning
120 pounds hammer , plus 24 per cent premium and they want ,
22 pounds ( approx 30 USD ) shipping . Unbelievable!
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 Posted 02/13/2020  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When shipping charges become a "profit center" then it becomes a problem. $3.99 is very reasonable. Then again, there are those that think everything should ship for free. Every time I've gone to the post office the "free shipping" counter is always closed.

I haven't bought anything from a large auction house in about 20 years. The buyer's fee and the crazy shipping charges killed the big auction house experience for me.

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 Posted 02/13/2020  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Daves Errors to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its tough...People want a good deal but don't think of all the work in getting that coin to them. Gas, Time, MONEY spent, Shipping, Listing a coin Heck it's almost not worth it unless its a HIGH PRICED COIN. UNGRATEFUL PEOPLE That's why I have cut down on selling I am not giving it away for almost free NOPE NOPE I WONT.
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02/13/2020 5:07 pm
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 Posted 02/13/2020  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Auction houses only make real sense with big ticket items.

With all other forms of purchase, such as eBay, all extra costs and fees still have to be accounted for, and should be added onto the effective purchase price.

Even with bricks 'n mortar LCS's, all hidden costs of running the business have to be included in the selling price.
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02/14/2020 07:28 am
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 Posted 02/15/2020  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Check jdmern's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is an auction house based in the UK that that hit me with a 100 shipping and parcel handling fee the last time I won lots, entire parcel was under 2 pounds in weight...
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 Posted 02/21/2020  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add luvmyCAM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes total agreement. I find that serious collectors and other small sellers do not use $3.75-4.50 shipping cost as their main decision purchasing coins over $50.00. They know what goes into shipping a coin and Paypal ebay fees etc. To mail a coin tracked first class costs me between 3.75-4.25 add the cost of a half decent shipping envelope, coin flip, tape, bubblewrap, gas and effort I consider the real dollar cost for me is approximately $6.00.
If shipping is reasonable and coin is tracked I myself have no problem paying these fees when I buy a coin. Yes there is an ebay element alive and well out there whom appear driven by nitpick and get it cheap issues, just glad majority of buyers/sellers are ballpark good fellows.
I am close to the bell curve on paying fees to ebay, USPS, Paypal and ship supplies. All these average about 15% now and on a $15.00 coin not much point hope ebay gets the point that if their fees go higher many like me will bail out. Have still found great sellers/buyers on ebay and scroll right by the others.
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 Posted 02/21/2020  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So the parcel arrived , it only cost them 9.75 to ship and the charge was 22 !
What an absolute ripoff!
If I did this to my Ebay Customers , I would have negatives every where!
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 Posted 02/21/2020  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My latest Canada Small cents almost cost as much shipping as the coins cost, but this was expected as I purchase from
5 different sellers, the coins were coming from
Canada and the coins were low cost. I was fine with the shipping cost as I expected it to be that. What annoys me is using shipping as a profit center. For those I just don't buy from them if I can avoid it. Most eBay sellers have great shipping costs!
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 Posted 03/28/2020  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kortez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To Pacificoin,

You wouldn't be able to ship a coin to UK with insurance, tracking number for $3.99 :D Americans on ebay are charging for a single coin postage 10-20 GBP. Royal Mint would probably charge you similar as DNW.
I am not saying that 22 GBP is reasonable postage cost but taking in consideration where DNW based, I do understand why fees and etc. are high. London is very expensive city.
I sold a medal once for 300 GBP and payed around 50 GBP in fees. Add your premium, maybe postage price. Things are a bit different here. It is as well a lot about prestige. There is a big difference when you offer coin with provenance from DNW and ebay :)
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 Posted 03/28/2020  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I am to buy bullion, it will be direct over the counter transactions from a specialist bullion dealer.

If I am to buy numismatic items, they will be direct over the counter transactions, either at coin shows, or from specialist numismatic dealers, or for big ticket items,
from specialist numismatic public auctioneers.

In all cases, I really need to inspect each item in hand first, before making a decision to buy or bid.

In all cases overheads are reduced, but not eliminated. Every transaction in cash. Almost always in person, almost never any shipping fees.

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 Posted 04/01/2020  12:25 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Kortez 22 Pounds for a single coin was a bloody rip off . The cost was 9.75 pounds .
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 Posted 04/01/2020  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"It is as well a lot about prestige. There is a big difference when you offer coin with provenance from DNW and ebay :)"

What, the 20%+ Buyer's "Premium" they all charge now doesn't cover that?

Heritage is now minimum of $19 per lot... and they eliminated the whopping 1% discount on bank transfer vs. card payment (which Stack's had done some time before).

The funny opposite was Aureo Calico in Spain (haven't bought from them in a few years so not sure if still the case)... Even on not terribly huge auction winnings, quite a few times they did FedEx Next Day or Overnight, whichever (it got here the next day) from Barcelona to the NY area... and only charged like EUR 15. I don't know what kind of hook they had to pull that off!
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 Posted 04/01/2020  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With auctions, the main reason to buy for me is that they have material that is otherwise hard to come buy. So I will grimace and pay the shipping and fees if I want the item badly enough. A reputable auction house (we should not buy from another) will stand by their item if it is not as described, so for this I do not worry about personal inspection.
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