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1958 P LMC Is This By Chance A DDO Or Anything Special

 
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 Posted 07/04/2020  9:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jatour to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found this in a beat up roll sent from who knows is this by chance a DDO some input any thoughts or help in identifying them would be greatly appreciated.
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 Posted 07/04/2020  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see it. But not expert. Only variety in 1958 listed on copper coins is in the TRU.

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 Posted 07/04/2020  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not seeing any DDO..only thing I could tell you is from which direction your light source is coming from in each photo. You might try reducing your light output by using some sort of a defuser.
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 Posted 07/04/2020  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Note the areas you are looking at? All the devices that you see affected are on the outside part of the design of the devices. This is call Machine Doubling. It is caused by the machine after the strike damaging that edge of the devices. On a doubled die the spread is in the center of the devices. The MD reduces the size of the devices by removing the contour of the coin
on that edge of the devices. The doubling in a doubled die is on the die. Thus it enlarges the size of the devices. Here is a classic example of a doubled die from that year:

Note the spread was so strong on the devices, it almost separates. But this is an extreme example. Here is what a DDO woould look like on these devices:
Normal devices:


Can you see the devices are enlarged? Where are they enlarged? Not on the outside edges, but on the centers of the devices, making them wider.
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 Posted 07/04/2020  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jatour to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
New pics pls look

Im really just looking to get my lights right. So I moved my light around and shifted alittle bit and got this. This penny looks right with the naked eye












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 Posted 07/04/2020  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try a defused light source. Glare is the issue. If all else fails, try daylight to photograph your coin.
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 Posted 07/05/2020  05:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try going to all three of the sites we all use for varieties and let us know which one you think it might be. Your photos need work. Too much glare and a bit out of focus. Are you taking a photo of a monitor and posting that? If so not a good idea,post directly from your computer to CCF.
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 Posted 07/05/2020  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see extreme die wear and on the 'R' on liberty you can see metal striation lines from Machine Doubling. Not a doubled die. Your looking at the outside edges of the devices. That is where Machine Doubling happens. The machine damages that area on the coin right after the strike.
Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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