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1882-P Morgan, MS-65, Prooflike?

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 Posted 07/13/2020  1:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is new photo of a coin I had previously posted. Has great reflectivity on both sides. PCGS deemed it to not be PL. Not sure why.



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 Posted 07/13/2020  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure either, PL IMO
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 Posted 07/13/2020  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks pl to me
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 Posted 07/13/2020  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most likely the depth of mirrors do not meet PCGS standards. A nice coin with eye appeal and frost on the devices.
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 Posted 07/13/2020  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add suipakpaikungfu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell from the pics, both sides must be PL for it to get the PL designation.
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 Posted 07/13/2020  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In terms of reflectivity, it seems DMPL on both sides. I'm hesitant to submit it to PCGS for reconsideration though. Maybe NGC? It's a $400 coin in MS-65 but $4000 in MS-65 DMPL.
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 Posted 07/13/2020  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The obverse has great reflectivity and contrast. Seems the reverse is not as reflective. How does the reverse compare to the obverse surface in hand? Right now seems like the reverse falls short which is why they didn't give it PL.
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 Posted 07/13/2020  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add southsav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMHO it is PL

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 Posted 07/13/2020  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure looks PL to me.
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 Posted 07/13/2020  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Check Collects82's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Collects82 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is one stunning coin! PL for me.
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 Posted 07/14/2020  08:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Indian - both sides are about equal in reflectivity. The lighter color of the top portion of the reverse is actually a reflection in that photo.
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 Posted 07/14/2020  08:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stephen-P to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeeaaahh, obvious prooflike is obvious.
Sketchy.
Please don't sell that to anyone for $400.
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 Posted 07/14/2020  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ham1947 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely PL. Might want to resubmit to either PCGS or NGC.
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 Posted 07/14/2020  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS is tough on PL and DMPL designations. Coin is probably close, but looks like the reverse fell just short on the mirror depth.
In the old days, would have called this semi-PL
Regardless, a very attractive coin.
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 Posted 07/14/2020  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Quite a gorgeous coin there
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 Posted 07/14/2020  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it difficult determining PL designations in a photo without some type of reference such as newsprint to determine depth. both sides must meet the standard for the designation. the luster on this one is very nice. PCGS is tough on these. strike is sharp which is typical for the year with some minor contract marks on the profile. MS65 is the correct grade but cannot comment on the designation
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