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1901 Eagle, (Probably) MS, For Grading

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 Posted 07/19/2020  2:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Adam590 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Thanks for your time on this one. I am trying to learn to discern the differences between 61, 62, 63, 64, etc. I am guessing 62 for this one? I am quite confident about this coin's originality--it sat in a safe deposit box from the late 1950s to this summer.

I am NOT questioning the originality of this coin--the luster looks much more original in person! In photographing the fields of the coin, I couldn't capture the luster--it's still there though, even if not super strong. Assuming it were to straight grade (I have not submitted it at this point), which number do you think it would earn? 61? 62? 63?






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 Posted 07/19/2020  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
https://www.PCGS.com/Photograde/#/10Lib/Grades Is that a fingerprint on the obverse?
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 Posted 07/19/2020  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the resource, John. It may be a fingerprint--it certainly isn't mine, though.

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 Posted 07/19/2020  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I certainly don't see any wear, but the lack of luster is a slight concern.
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 Posted 07/19/2020  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keith12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe the lighting
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 Posted 07/19/2020  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 07/19/2020  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am fine with 62. It could go higher.
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 Posted 07/19/2020  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the first thing I noticed was that the obverse has fingerprints on it. the first shot of the obverse is showing some luster. the coin imo is MS. there are some dull spots but unsure what those. i'd put her in the MS63+ bucket. better photos especially of the luster on both sides would help.
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 Posted 07/20/2020  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Razor sharp strike. I think there's more luster than these photos show. MS-63 possible 64.
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 Posted 07/20/2020  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Check Lancek's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Lancek to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you are going to get it graded at PCGS or NGC I would consider their conservation service prior to grading and encapsulation. Won't make it grade any higher, but will help with eye appeal. Gold doesn't react with much, so rarely tones. But this one has a little. Making the finger prints more noticeable. Gold is easy for the pros to get back to its original color. Last time I sent a gold coin to NGC they had a flat rate for gold conservation. Rather than a percentage of value. I think it was around $50 to get conserved and graded.
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 Posted 07/20/2020  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with IGE. Great strike!
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 Posted 07/20/2020  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to say, it has no wear, but yet I don't see luster. Could the last 60+ years inna safe have caused the luster to mute this much
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 Posted 07/20/2020  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say MS-62, nice strike!
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 Posted 07/20/2020  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
62 shot 63 if the luster's better than what I see. Considered a common date, you really need at least a 63 to make it worth grading IMO.
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 Posted 07/20/2020  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks so much for your opinions! As I tried to indicate in the post, there is actually some luster and it looks natural (there were two other Coronet Eagles with this one, and one with super clean fields certified as a 65)--I didn't capture it well enough when I focused on the fields of the coin. I appreciate all of your time and energy. It seems the consensus is 62-63, with a slight possibility of 64.
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 Posted 07/21/2020  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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