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Cant Believe The Grade I Got From PCGS (1885-O Morgan Dollar)

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I sent this Morgan dollar to PCGS for grading. Although I haven"t gotten the coin back, I do have the PCGS cert. Please look at this Morgan and tell me what you think.

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 Posted 09/01/2020  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just does not have the "flash" or luster to be graded higher.

If I send it something like it I would end up getting back a coin graded AU58.

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Based on those pics, an AU instead of MS could have easily been the result.
They must have thought it was just a weak strike in the high points of Lady Liberty's hair and gave it an MS still.
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The luster is there. It has a nice carousel on the obverse and reverse. I went to PCGS photograde online to look at their definition of an MS62 Morgan looks like and it looks nothing like this one.
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It doesn't look MS to me, but I haven't examined a lot of Morgans.
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 Posted 09/01/2020  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Buy the coin, not the holder."

I have seen this type of situation reported far too often.
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That coin is AU58, be happy with the grade you got I think it's overgraded.
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 Posted 09/01/2020  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed , coin is not even new . AU58 is about right . Looks washed out
probably from too many dippy baths .
These O mint usually come with a typical middling strike , but do
have rich satiny creamy lustre .
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well I do not see wear , I see a so so strike , luster is not good but some MS Morgans came that way so I can see it.
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I'm in the AU-53 or -55 area.
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They are probably pushing the new NFC, and over grading a few here and there, be happy your lucky.
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Are you happy or disappointed with the results?

I'd call this one AU-58, just not seeing an uncirculated coin.
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This is a PCGS MS62 Morgan dollar. I don't see the comparison.

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Don't take this wrong, but if you were expecting a lower grade, why send it in? Can't justify grading costs based on value, IMO. Just an observation.
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First,

PCGS TrueView photos generally (but not always) tend to make coins look a bit better than they look in real life. I don't know if that's marketing-driven or just a normal product of their lighting and equipment.

The 1885-O is a common date all the way to MS-66, so PCGS handles a large number of the coins. There are lots of 63s and 64s out there for this date. Blast white and SPL examples are very common. Here, I don't see evidence of circulation, but I do see a weak strike, weaker luster than many 1885-O dollars, and a resulting likely eye appeal deduction from the technical grade. Just based on the photos, it looks it would net low-to-mid UNC (61-62-63). JMHO.
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Quote:
Cant believe the grade I got from PCGS


Neither can I. They were generous.
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