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St Gaudens Double Eagle - Fake?

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 Posted 09/17/2020  04:26 am  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure if it works in Germany, but if you are an ANA member let NGC know this, ANA members are allowed to do direct submissions without needing to join their collectors club for an additional fee. At least that is true in the United States, as they are the ANA Official Grading Company. Might save you some serious money on a single submission.

https://www.NGCcoin.com/ana-welcome/

Best to contact them first to see if the ANA deal applies to German submissions.
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09/17/2020 04:29 am
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 Posted 09/17/2020  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stgaudens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Today, I've been reading a lot about detecting st gaudens fakes, and then I've studied the coin using x8 magnifying glasses. I found a few spots that are a somewhat suspicious: weak edge lettering (especially the word pluribus, as you can see in the video), potential toolmarks etc....

I'm looking forward to hearing your opinions!

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 Posted 09/17/2020  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weakness at the edges of devices is very common on gold pieces, purely due to the soft nature of the metal itself. Without a doubt your coin is genuine.
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 Posted 09/17/2020  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stgaudens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok that's nice to hear, but what about the damage between the e and r in liberty? (seconds 16-22 of the video). I have not seen something like that on any other st gaudens double eagle
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 Posted 09/17/2020  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a quick photo from the old 1980's ANA Counterfeit Detection book used at the Summer Seminars.

1924 St. Gaudens Genuine:



Not all genuine 1924 have this but those that do are probably real.

Stgaudens I can send you a pdf paper on the 1924 showing color photos of known counterfeit die markers, but you have email turned off, send me an email and I will happily shoot you a copy ASAP. Has some good pick up points to check easily for the common counterfeit 1924.
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 Posted 09/18/2020  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stgaudens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@westcoin: I can't send you an email because I'm a new member, but you can now send me an email as I've changed the settings
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