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Putting A Value On An 1868 S-13 Indian Cent

 
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 Posted 09/15/2020  9:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add roach to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Any thoughts on how to put a value on very rare varieties that don't have established sales records? I am happy to report I have come upon an 1868 Indian cent Snow 13 that has graded out at NGC as VF 30 (they don't recognize the variety so it is not on the holder) From what I can tell There have only been 4 graded by PCGS (they do recognize the variety) and the top grade is only an f-15. So this would put it as a top population coin. I do plan on selling it at some point, I am just not sure how to price it.
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 Posted 09/15/2020  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Someone will probably have a simpler answer than mine, but....

If it were mine and I was looking at selling, I would first have it slabbed by a TPG thet does recognize the variety.

As far as price, there's the gamble of going with one of the big auction sites and let the demand decide the price, which is after all how a market value is determined.

Otherwise, deciding what it is worth to you, putting it up at thet price and see how much attention it receives, and change your price accordingly if it has to come down.

As we all know, top pops and higher grades don't really increase in value linearly from the lower grades, so as you stated, determining a price is tricky!

And of course.... pics?
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 Posted 09/15/2020  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let's start with pics, please, including close-ups of the markers.
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That's a tough one. It's a pretty sought after variety. Sky's the limit because it would be fought over pretty good if it was on eBay. Including me. Would love to see it. I've only found one in the wild and it was pretty worn. I bid it to 50 bucks and was outbid.
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 Posted 09/16/2020  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
S-13s is a very rare variety. Congrats! I would say a high VF example would be worth a good chunk of money, but I can't give a good value range since few have sold. I know PCGS's highest grades example is a F-15, so a VF piece would probably be a top pop, and very desirable to Indian Enthusiasts. Have you thought about reaching out to Rick Snow? Do you have pictures?

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I would suggest a TPGS since it may or may not be real.
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 Posted 09/22/2020  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add roach to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Finally got it back from NGC and was able to take some pictures.



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 Posted 09/22/2020  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Snow's book has it marked with three stars.
That means a 3x to 5x premium.
That's about $350 to $600 RETAIL.
But then you have to find someone collecting by Snow variety.
Describe it as if there were no picture.
Picture it as if there were no description.
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Beautiful! VF-30 might be a top pop. Very rare no doubt. Amazing pick and congrats on the slab!

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To me, the cheek scratches make it details coin. Just my opinion.
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Cherrypicker collectors might also want this variety since it is listed in the guide. It can be added to a registry set....multiple I believe.

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Dang, too bad about the scratches. Should still go for good money.
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 Posted 09/23/2020  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SensibleSal66 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To the right buyer. Just like my 1868 Nickel varieties . That's another story. If they like it, it will sell, but I think there needs to be some selling on your part. Just my opinion .
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