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1794 Flowing Hair Large Cent (Variety)

 
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 Posted 09/22/2020  2:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sergiomomesso to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
hi! this picture is on my laptop, I will get the actual coin in my hand next week, I want to know what you thinking about it.

Dont look too corroded, and I think this is the 1794 head of 1794 but could it be the famous 1794 head of 1793? The strikes looks like a 1794 head of 1794...

and what grade?

thank you



Edited by Sergiomomesso
09/22/2020 3:51 pm
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 Posted 09/22/2020  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GMS5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Need Obv. pic's please
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 Posted 09/22/2020  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still no obverse pics...
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 Posted 09/22/2020  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sergiomomesso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've added two times I can see them... weird.. let me try it back
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 Posted 09/22/2020  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see the obverse now. Looks like a head of 94 to me.
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 Posted 09/22/2020  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Head of 94.
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 Posted 09/22/2020  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sergiomomesso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
what about the grade and do you think it got corrosion ?

thank you
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 Posted 09/22/2020  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Head of 94, haven't checked the variety yet but it is between 21 and 44, one of the early heard of 94 varieties.

Got it, S-42.
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 Posted 09/22/2020  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sergiomomesso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know this image is kinda low res, but do you think it is cleaned or has corosion?

thank you for the variety, where can I find a sheldon variety reference?
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 Posted 09/23/2020  01:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't really tell through the plastic, I'll wait to take a stab at the grade with better pics. The reverse looks like it might have some corrosion, obv. too washed out to tell.
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 Posted 09/23/2020  06:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SensibleSal66 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say G-4 on this one maybe VG-8 at best . I used Photo grading compared to yours but coin in hand is best . I hope this helps.
Take care. Be Safe
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09/23/2020 06:55 am
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 Posted 09/23/2020  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
thank you for the variety, where can I find a sheldon variety reference?

This is Sheldons book Penny Whimsy (avoid 1990 editiions if there are any listed)
https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Se...sy&kn=&isbn=

There are also 30 copies listed on Amazon

And this is Walter Breens' book on the series Bigger, More expensive, but probably easier to use. I only found 1 copy of it on abebooks.
https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Bo...rp1-_-title6

There is just 1 copy listed on Amazon and it may be the same copy that is on abebooks.
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 Posted 09/25/2020  01:43 am  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can read Breen's Large Cent book online for free through the PCGS Library:

https://www.PCGS.com/books/earlycents edited by my friend Mark Borckardt! Copies do pop up now and again, I paid $150.00 for mine of Amazon five years ago or so. The best books on Large cents would be the Noyes books, available through Charles Davis: https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ch...Default.aspx though not a cheap set at $600.00 there is nothing better out there.

Other options are The Dan Holmes (Goldberg's) https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/aucti...uctionId=443 and Walter Husak ( Heritage) https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/aucti...AuctionId=91 auction catalogs followed by the Robinson Brown (Superior) https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/aucti...ionId=523113 and a few others.

I'd also be remiss to not suggest a visit to Al Boka's 1794 website: http://www.1794largecents.com/1794/index.html and his great book (My review: http://goccf.com/t/171054)

I think I have around 12-15 books on primarily just 1794 Large Cents in my library but only a single low grade 1794 cent in my whole collection. Sure wish I saved them when they were selling for $15-40 each for decent legible ones. Now it seems it takes a hundred dollar bill or more to get a Poor to Good example. If I ever come into serious money that and some a particular colonials are on my list of must have coins on my bucket list. Jefferson head, Stared Reverse, apple cheek so many neat varieties in 1794.

Another friend Check Heck just did a neat talk on clash marks on 1794 Large Cents that was videoed and up now for viewing at NNP https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/588139 and he is in many EAC videos under the David Lisot Media Library: This one as an example https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/560143 but there are many, many EAC videos many featuring 1794 Cents.

Last but certainly not least is the huge archive of EAC Club news letters "Pennywise" 50 years of archived issues are free to read at NNP now: https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/publi...etail/511683


That should keep you busy for awhile! Everything but the Noyes books and Boka's 1794 book I provided links that will allow you to read them for free online, thanks to PCGS and the Eric Newman Numismatic Portal (a site I seem to live at these days). It's the best research site around for US numismatic history right now (IMO).
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013!
ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1982, EAC Member #6202, NBS Member, 2 variety collector.

See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
Edited by westcoin
09/25/2020 01:47 am
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