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1881 H 1 Cent- Please Identify A Possible Variety And Or Error

 
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 Posted 09/29/2020  10:33 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 47P7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
as the title says....
any comment, even as to grade is welcome
thank you


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 Posted 09/29/2020  10:41 am  Show Profile   Check BigSilver's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe that is a die clash. The beads on the obverse seem to be a wider circle than those on the reverse. Which would line them up perfectly to be a clash.
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 Posted 09/29/2020  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
H ... you need to use some of your reference books or library. This coin has been discussed many times over the last 15 years and has been the subject of many many coin hunts in the past. In Griffin, it is variety Gr-91. "The N's of Regina and Canada are almost corrected. The beads and letters of the legend of the Obverse show under the leaves of the Reverse at the bottom of the cent." rarity 8 (which is the highest rarity he used and there are only 4-5 R-8's in his whole book of large cent varieties).

We included it on p.308 of the 2011 65th edition of Charlton. There are really 2-3 different types. In one type like yours, the clash was only once, which resulted in full, round bead clashes showing, and then those that are football-shaped bead clashes from multiple clashes on the working die that overlap the round beads and making them football-shaped or oblong. They really don't deserve a rarity of 8, as I have a few of both types. They are relatively hard to find, but not rare and most of the Vicky variety folks that I know have more than 1. I'd give you a VF-30 from the photo, but hard to tell without really looking at it.
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 Posted 09/29/2020  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with the others die clash, and like Bill has mentioned not rare or scarce I've seen several in lower grades but few in Mint State look for a nice mint state one's I can't ever remember seeing a mint state one of the foot ball clash nice collectable coin's.

It took me a while to find a mint state regular die clash one I'm still hunting for the multi die clash one (foot ball type) one in mint state condition.
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 Posted 09/29/2020  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's one of the "football" ones:


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