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Color Designation For Cents: Why RD/Rb For MS Grade Only?

 
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 Posted 10/19/2020  9:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dieuwer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that Red and Red-Brown designations are only given to Cents in MS condition. Why is that? Can a XF Cent not be red? Can a VG Cent not be red-brown? Am I missing something?
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 Posted 10/19/2020  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twslisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking if a penny is circulated enough to be less than mint state, it's oxidized enough to be brown as well. If I'm wrong I welcome correction.
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 Posted 10/19/2020  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any coin below MS labeled RD has been cleaned -- essentially a 100% chance.
But the are AU coins (-58 and maybe -55) that can be correctly labeled RB.
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 Posted 10/19/2020  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dieuwer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, theoretically a Cent could have been circulating heavily for a short period of time to create wear, but not long enough to oxidize. If that coin would have been sealed subsequently under vacuum, it should still be red but not in a mint state.
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If there is wear, there is oxidization. Period. There is no way around that. The wear literally flattens metal
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 Posted 10/20/2020  04:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Because RD and RB on MS coins would be "natural" toning and circulated toning could be anything from a bad cleaning to a cola stained coin. Just my two cents,I mean one cent
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 Posted 10/20/2020  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree that many AU coins could logically be called RB, it just isn't a standard practice.



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 Posted 10/20/2020  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
More than less of my AU Coppers are RB . In my opinion some AU-58's can be mostly if not all red .
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 Posted 10/20/2020  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree that high AU cents can have RB mint color, but perhaps that distinction isn't made because it doesn't affect value much at those grade levels.
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