Color Designation For Cents: Why RD/Rb For MS Grade Only?

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NumisEd Pillar of the Community United States 5288 Posts	Posted 10/19/2020 9:29 pm Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that Red and Red-Brown designations are only given to Cents in MS condition. Why is that? Can a XF Cent not be red? Can a VG Cent not be red-brown? Am I missing something? My Morgan dollar set: https://goccf.com/t/472351 My US Type Set: https://goccf.com/t/395066 Report this Post to the Staff

twslisa Pillar of the Community United States 790 Posts	Posted 10/19/2020 10:02 pm I'm thinking if a penny is circulated enough to be less than mint state, it's oxidized enough to be brown as well. If I'm wrong I welcome correction. Report this Post to the Staff
kanga Pillar of the Community United States 5825 Posts	Posted 10/19/2020 10:04 pm Any coin below MS labeled RD has been cleaned -- essentially a 100% chance. But the are AU coins (-58 and maybe -55) that can be correctly labeled RB. Report this Post to the Staff
NumisEd Pillar of the Community United States 5288 Posts	Posted 10/19/2020 10:24 pm Well, theoretically a Cent could have been circulating heavily for a short period of time to create wear, but not long enough to oxidize. If that coin would have been sealed subsequently under vacuum, it should still be red but not in a mint state. My Morgan dollar set: https://goccf.com/t/472351 My US Type Set: https://goccf.com/t/395066 Report this Post to the Staff
GrapeCollects Pillar of the Community United States 8946 Posts	Posted 10/19/2020 10:36 pm If there is wear, there is oxidization. Period. There is no way around that. The wear literally flattens metal Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 10/20/2020 04:44 am Because RD and RB on MS coins would be "natural" toning and circulated toning could be anything from a bad cleaning to a cola stained coin. Just my Two Cents,I mean one cent John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 10/20/2020 09:06 am Agree that many AU coins could logically be called RB, it just isn't a standard practice. to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
T-BOP Rest in Peace United States 18456 Posts	Posted 10/20/2020 11:03 am More than less of my AU Coppers are RB . In my opinion some AU-58's can be mostly if not all red . Report this Post to the Staff
Zurie Pillar of the Community United States 5713 Posts	Posted 10/20/2020 11:23 am Agree that high AU cents can have RB mint color, but perhaps that distinction isn't made because it doesn't affect value much at those grade levels. Report this Post to the Staff
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