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1993-P DDO Quarter (Strange An Very Distinct Tripling In All Lettering)

 
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 Posted 10/28/2020  02:02 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Rambles to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
(**edit- I tried to screenshot from vid link I shared of the example that helps me in explaining my coin. But I can't get pics uploaded. My coin is identical to this, but is in WAY better condition. Again, video link isn't my coin/video, just to help me in referencing mine**) Hi folks! I'm new here on the forum, after rediscovering my coin addiction. Lol. I had to start from scratch little over a year ago, and have found a quite a few gems so far. I was needing little bit of help however on one in particular... First I want to apologize because I can't get pictures uploaded because only camera I have is on its last leg. The quality doesn't do the coin justice and won't help anyone to help me at least. .

I do however have a YouTube link I'll share of the only other example I know of. He recorded great detail if anybody could take a sec to watch the short video. It will let you get and idea of exactly the same coin I have. Even down to the die breaks on the reverse. Now, I was going to reference this youtuber's video anyways, because it's literally the only sole piece of info I have ever found online. I was actually shocked when I finally saw this video because after hours of searching for info, I suddenly found just one video that had every single error detail that my coin displays. (I guess I should say die marker/indicators.) Its such extreme doubleing/tripling, that it caused me to completely overlook the die breaks on the reverse. When he pointed them out in video, I noticed them all on mine. It's such an interesting coin to me... Not because fact that they obviously were struck on the same die and look identical, but because I've researched this more than any coin I have, and haven't found any other info, mention or example anywhere. Started to make me think about rarity a little... Lol.

My example is in WAY better condition/grade too, about low 60's AU I guesstimate. Not bad for a future, yet to be acknowledged error, with extremely noticeable doubling, of which only 2 are known to exist? Yeah, that's a daydream of the highest caliber there! . The motto "In God We Trust" is where doubling is most noticeable, but also around chin/nose as well. What's most interesting is that there's honestly tripling in the letters as well. Especially on my coin, I can see 3 distinct lines on the edges of the lettering. He mentions the tripling about his coin as well and shows some nice closeups. I'm relatively new to the error world, but know alot about Mechanical Doubling and all the other things that can happen during minting, that cause people to mistakenly identify a double die. But at same time, I'm not sure about even "technically" correct true double die either. Just so strange to me and something that gets me excited about coins that I wanted to share and ramble about. Lol.

If anyone has any thoughts or know more, please lmk. Thanks in advance, and sorry if my description/explaining sounds drunk. Had a few tonight. . Seriously though, thanks everyone & stay safe! Link:

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 Posted 10/28/2020  05:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I took a look at the video but it wasn't really clear enough, but it sure looked to be MD. I didn't see any notching on the corners of the letters.

You'll really need to post clear, images including closeups, for us to be able to help you. You could also send it to an attributor (Wexler or Wiles) and let them give you an "in hand" assessment of your coin.
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 Posted 10/28/2020  05:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to Community.

The coin in the video does show doubling but, that is due to DDD : Die Deterioration Doubling. No extra premium,Worth just the face value.
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 Posted 10/28/2020  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would also be good to post a clear full shot of the obverse and reverse.

Reverse: both are die cracks, both located where you typically see them. Neat example, but no added premium.

Obverse: MD along the west side of the devices (forehead and chin area).

And agreed with Chase on the DDD on the motto, no DDO. Looks like both the obverse and reverse dies were on the way out given the Die Deterioration and wear. Again, neat, but no added value.
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 Posted 10/28/2020  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Images are better for us than videos. I just checked the sites and nothing is listed that year on either of them. So I'm leaning towards Machine Doubling without seeing the images. Machine Doubling alters devices, where if it were a doubled die, the spread would be noticed on the devices. From the image on the screen of the video, the devices are normal sized. On a doubled die the device should be enlarged:
http://www.varietyvista.com/09b%20W...0SDDO001.htm
On the other site it shows a 1997 DDO and it show that the doubled die was affected on the earlobe. (which means that was probably the first year for the single squeezed dies. So on them the devices are doubled on the central part of the devices. Earlobes.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 10/31/2020  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rambles to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool deal. I'm out of town for another week or so for work, but soon as I get back, I'll get some detail shots of the one I have. Thanks folks for taking a whirl at it for now!
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 Posted 10/31/2020  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the above, heavy Die Deterioration on IGWT.
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