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Flying Eagle Cent - Grade & Opinion Please?

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 Posted 01/27/2021  10:50 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Came across this Flying Eagle on eBay. Being sold as "AU++" although I think it is low AU at most. Too much wear on the breast and tail feathers.
The reverse has some grey blobs at K7 and K10, which I am not sure what it is. Any guesses?


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 Posted 01/27/2021  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i have this one at XF45
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 Posted 01/27/2021  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say EF/AU details (cleaned or altered surfaces).
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 Posted 01/27/2021  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
XF45 Details, agreed the surfaces don't look original.
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 Posted 01/27/2021  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't forget.
FE's were struck on CuNi planchets.
Their color WILL be different.
I don't see a problem with any of your thinking on the grade.
But I don't see it as a DETAILS coin.
Describe it as if there were no picture.
Picture it as if there were no description.
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 Posted 01/27/2021  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
XF Details Cleaned - I am seeing hairlines. With the possible cleaning and color difference between obverse and reverse, I would pass.
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 Posted 01/27/2021  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
EF-40 to AU-50 , have to agree with Kanga , I don't think it's a cleaned coin . Wear on the high spots might be making it look off .
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 Posted 01/27/2021  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
XF45 - maybe an older cleaning but straight grade.
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 Posted 01/27/2021  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was referring to the reverse. That's not a natural surface to me.
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 Posted 01/27/2021  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I was referring to the reverse. That's not a natural surface to me.


The reverse does look a bit like it was colored with a bronze paint. If you look closely, the top rim has some silver poking through the bronze.
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 Posted 01/27/2021  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would like to see pictures in natural sunlight.

There is a red tint to the surfaces of this FE.

NOT AU - you are correct - too much wear.
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 Posted 01/27/2021  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with frog, CuNi aside, the reverse surfaces look altered. The color difference between obverse and reverse looks to be lighting, and not my concern. Looks like it may have been cleaned with a mild acid and has not yet retoned. can't pinpoint exactly what, but this just looks off and not original, IMO.
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 Posted 01/27/2021  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is being photographed through the mylar of a 2x2. Can the mylar be scattering light making the surface look strange? I remember reading on here of people saying for the coins to be removed from their 2x2 before photographing.
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 Posted 01/27/2021  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That can definitely play a factor @Rothery. If it were me, based on these pics I'd pass unless the price was low and it had a solid return policy.
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 Posted 01/28/2021  03:37 am  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm at a solid EF45 can't say there is an obvious cleaning in the past, but I always assume most coins of this era and older have been cleaned at some point along their journey to today.
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TIf it were me, based on these pics I'd pass unless the price was low and it had a solid return policy.


It has a 30-day free return policy. The seller gets top reviews too.
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