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1874 $3 For Your Grading-Sharper Images

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 Posted 02/27/2021  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
based on these photos AU details. cleaned
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 Posted 02/27/2021  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, AU details (cleaned).
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 Posted 02/27/2021  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scarp9603 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, that's consistent with the price it was offered at.
What signs of cleaning does it exhibit?
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 Posted 02/28/2021  06:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Was wondering myself about the cleaning...? I guess maybe the vertical lines on the reverse...seems like all the distracting marks are going in the same direction? At first glance I thought they were just circulation hits on a soft coin? The obverse seems to have hits/lines going horizontal for the most part...?
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 Posted 02/28/2021  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU details cleaned

The coin is showing hairlines and one of the photos it looks polished. The coin is shinny, but no luster from photos.
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 Posted 02/28/2021  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm closer to XF details, cleaned.
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 Posted 02/28/2021  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks polish or whizzed.
I will wait for another one.

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 Posted 02/28/2021  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU details. The surfaces do not look natural.
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I wonder if this coin was used in jewelry. It would be interesting to know if there is any indication of a bezel or loupe on the edge. That would explain both the deeper contact marks and cleaning. They weren't popular coins, and generally didn't circulate heavily. This one has heavier contact marks than the grade would suggest. That's why I suspect use in jewelry.

With 42,000-ish mintage, how many die pairs existed? I ask because a couple things catch my eye on the reverse. The serifs on the "D" in DOLLAR appear to be fairly significantly different, and are not that different on the coins I have seen. Also, the "1" in the date seems to be in a different position relative to the "OL" of DOLLAR than the 1874 threes I have seen. The bottoms of the "LLA" in DOLLAR also appear to be uneven, rather than level. This could be from heavy contact marks or the cleaning, but make me pause a bit.

From wear alone, EF-45/AU-50 sounds right. The contact marks are heavier than would be expected on an AU. It definitely has been cleaned, which would be expected if it was used in jewelry.
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 Posted 02/28/2021  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If 42,000 mintage is correct, only one pair of dies would be needed to complete the production order.
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 Posted 03/01/2021  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scarp9603 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The price it was offered at, was consistent with recent Heritage Auction prices for an 1874 $3 AU details (cleaned).

Any chance it would straight grade as AU PL?
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 Posted 03/01/2021  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's where I am pausing. The first photo is a cropped image of the OPs coin. The second photo is from PCGS, a cropped photo of an exceptional slabbed coin.

Notice the differences in the serifs on the "D" of DOLLARS, the different positions of the "1" relative to the "OL" of DOLLARS, and the differences in the evenness of the bottoms of the "LLA" in DOLLARS.

The differences could be due to damage from cleaning or from different reverse dies (if more than one reverse die was used), but they make me pause.


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