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The Most Absurdly Toned Clad Coin I Own - 1973 Rosie Dime PCGS MS-65

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 Posted 04/17/2021  11:26 pm Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
So this coin has a bit of a story to it.

This coin originally came to a dealer who I know who deals in exclusively toned coins. He purchased it from another dealer who bought the set over the counter from a gentleman who had been buying mint sets since the sixties, and had a complete collection of mint sets 1955-Date (from what I was told his birthyear to date). The original dealer who had bought the gentleman's collection noticed many coins, especially in the double mint sets, were beautifully toned and sold those sets to the dealer I know.

So the dealer I know ended up buying from purchased half a dozen sets from him for an undisclosed sum. One of the sets he bought contained a stunning 1973 Lincoln Cent, which was the reason he originally bought that set. What was not disclosed was the toned 1973 dime, which was not factored into the original purchase price. That dealer than cut all the toned coins and sent them to be slabbed in the original cellophane. All of the coins came back straight except one, the dime.

So annoyed that everything except the dime straight graded he cracked the dime out and sent it back to PCGS with his next submission. Almost everything in that submission straight graded, except for a pair of cleaned coins, and that dime again.

That annoyed him because he KNEW it wasn't artificially toned. Why would every toned coin from that collection be natural except for a single dime in a later date set? So, yet again he busted it out and sent it to NGC. He knew he wasn't likely to make any money on the coin at this point, he just wanted the justification that it WAS natural. NGC rejected it as Artificially toned.

At that point, he was done with it. While talking with him about a separate purchase he mentioned the coin and his struggles with it and sent me some photos, I took a liking to it, and having to reason to doubt his story I made it my problem for $15.

Well, a few months back I sent it to PCGS, where it came back in a Questionable Color holder. Well, with my latest PCGS sub I had a bit of extra credit on my PCGS account and so for giggles cracked the dime and sent it back, this time, after a total of 5 rounds at the grading services, it came back in a straight graded PCGS MS-65 holder.

Now, looking at the coin, you'd think it HAS to be AT since clad doesn't tone like this normally. But, given the origin of the coin, and my experience in identifying artificially toned coins, I was sure that it was natural, and this time around PCGS agreed. A great lecture on differentiating natural and artificial would be this by Bob Campbell.

https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/560383

Well, story aside, what are your thoughts on this coin? It will forever represent the clad dime in my slabbed type set. Even though I could very easily find a coin many grades higher (68FT) none would match the eye appeal of this beast.


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 Posted 04/17/2021  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What a fantastic toned coin!
Should not have taken 5 trips to a grading service
to realize what it is !
Would love to own a bunch like that!
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 Posted 04/18/2021  12:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I say crack it out and spend it......
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 Posted 04/18/2021  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sure this looks better in hand, its addictive once you start.

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 Posted 04/18/2021  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rainbow toned coins are extremely delicate. The color balance is unstable, and will eventually look like a normal non colored toned coin.
To keep the color that way, it needs to be in an air tight close fitting acrylic capsule as soon as possible. Slab environment OK, but close fitting capsule certainly more protective color wise, than protection provided by a slab.
Both provide same protection against wear and scratching.
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 Posted 04/18/2021  02:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great story and great dime. PCGS made a bundle on that one dime...
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 Posted 04/18/2021  03:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a lot for sharing such a story, that was a fun read!

That's one spectacular coin, I agree as well that it doesn't look artificially toned to my eyes.
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 Posted 04/18/2021  05:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is indeed a beauty.
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 Posted 04/18/2021  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think I've ever seen a clad coin that was beautifully toned like that Dime . But then again I don't bother looking at clad coins .
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 Posted 04/18/2021  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin indeed!
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 Posted 04/18/2021  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like it. I've come across a few nicely, naturally toned clads similar to the dime posted, but only a few.
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 Posted 04/18/2021  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats on the straight grade, ... finally. It is very nice and you would think since it was in the original plastic for the first go-'round they would have gotten it correct from the git-go. Great story on perseverance as well.

I hope you let the dealer know so they could realize they were right.
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 Posted 04/18/2021  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1487 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That gold(?) stripe on the top torch band is really cool! Doesn't look that outrageous to me for it to have taken 5 tries, but I'm green deficient colorblind so
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 Posted 04/18/2021  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I say crack it out and spend it......


Will do


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Should not have taken 5 trips to a grading service
to realize what it is !


No it shouldn't, though I understand their hesitation. Toned clad, to this degree, is very, very rare. So I don't totally blame them, but I think it was a matter of the right graders getting it this time. I feel a lot of coins that should be straight graded get detailed, and coins that do get straight graded should be detailed. It's all a matter of someone who's best educated getting the coin.


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PCGS made a bundle on that one dime...


Around $74. Granted, this is likely worth over $150 and I only have a $59 investment in it so I'm still happy.


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but close fitting capsule certainly more protective color wise, than protection provided by a slab.


Yeah, I'll likely be placing the slab in an Intercept Shield soon enough.


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I don't think I've ever seen a clad coin that was beautifully toned like that Dime


I wouldn't be surprised. I can think of maybe 2 other clad coins I've seen toned to this degree.


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Thanks a lot for sharing such a story, that was a fun read!


No problem! It's a great coin with a great story.


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you would think since it was in the original plastic for the first go-'round they would have gotten it correct from the git-go


You can gas them in the OGP but nobody really does. But yeah they should have gotten it right the first time.


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I hope you let the dealer know so they could realize they were right.


Shot them a text just now!

My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/236574/
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 04/18/2021  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ballyhoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! You are correct, I would expect silver to tone with such intensity but not clad. More impressive is the equal amount on both sides.
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