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2020 P Kennedy Half Dollar - Is This A New Find ?

 
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 Posted 04/21/2021  11:24 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dennis omara to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Last year I bought and went through a US Mint bag of 2020 P&D Kennedy halves. I noticed the lips on the some of the P coins had "indents" on them. At the time I was and still am very new to collecting and after several... I'm sure this is something moments that turned into rather disappointing results... I decided not to post this find. However, now a year later and just as new to collecting, I have to know if this is anything.

Out of the bag I pulled 12 halves with the EXACT same marks in the EXACT same location, this to me rules out a ricochet and PMD. What do you think? Does this qualify as a DDO?


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 Posted 04/21/2021  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scuba1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Out of the bag I pulled 12 halves with the EXACT same marks in the EXACT same location,


Nothing more than MD. Sorry.
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 Posted 04/22/2021  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why would it make it a DDO? The marks on incuse on the coin. If it were a die issue, then the areas would be raised, not incuse. All the other devices are normal sized. So it would not be a doubled die. On the second images with the red circles. Why did you not mention these? These are contact marks to the right of the lower circle on the same plane. (5 of them) If they are on the other coins, the coins when through the same event that damaged them. Doubled dies show a spread on the devices.
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 Posted 04/22/2021  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dennis omara to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did not mention the other marks because they are obvious damage from being banged around in the minting process, you can see the shinny gouge from contact which you do not see in the marks I am referring to. I guess you are all MISSING the FACT that ALL 12 COINS HAVE THE SAME EXACT MARKS IN THE SAME EXACT PLACE. The likelihood that 12 coins out of 100 have the EXACT SAME MARKS IN THE EXACT SAME PLACE rule out "RANDOM DAMAGE" from the minting process or MD. you would have better odds winning poerball 7x in a row with the same numbers, why because 12 coins out of 100 is such a LOW sample size. This is a minting error of some kind, while it may not be a DDO, it is clearly not MD.
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 Posted 04/22/2021  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you show us a few of the other ones for comparison?
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EXACT SAME MARKS IN THE EXACT SAME PLACE rule out "RANDOM DAMAGE" from the minting process or MD.


You're right in that that would make random damage extremely unlikely, but it does not rule out MD. If the die is loose during striking, every coin struck from it could show some MD from the die shifting either during the strike or the ejection of the coin.

I believe this is MD as well.
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 Posted 04/22/2021  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dennis omara to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes here are different 4 coins



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Looks like the size and the location of the indents vary slightly. You said they were in a bag so maybe just a remarkable coincidence that those 2 areas were more susceptible to hits from the other coins edges? That's all I got......
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 Posted 04/22/2021  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Rothery, chapeau you was faster then me tipping. I look at the photos and over sloped and give 4 different position and also different deepness. Must be something else.
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