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2019 W Lowell Quarter Please Grade.

 
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 Posted 06/13/2021  12:15 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add OriginalAtog to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
EDIT: Better photos posted further down http://goccf.com/t/402319#3440046 br / )

Please take a look at this 2019 W Lowell Quarter and let me know what you think?

Based on the pictures of graded ones at PCGS I believe it have a range I think it maybe in. But I'm still new at this and trying to get better.

Thanks for looking!!


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 Posted 06/13/2021  04:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that "true" color? I am not good at grading,MS62-63?
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 Posted 06/13/2021  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Appears the photo's white balance is off--using 'warm' incandescent light source? Glare in the coin's fields is a bit unfortunate. Given the images posted, I'd venture MS63+.
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 Posted 06/13/2021  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Better pics with less flash would help.



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 Posted 06/13/2021  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some help:
Here is more info concerning the nature of the grading companies to help people make better educated decisions.
Note this is NOT a slam against the companies...just some reality.

Thinking of Slabbing? Make sure you understand the facts...or you will likely lose money.
"Education is the key to collector success"

1. The grading companies are not a way that the majority of people, even those with a great deal of experience who know what they are doing, are going to be able to use in order to make huge personal profits. Many people start using grading companies thinking they will find a way to finance their hobby, but they learn a hard lesson quickly.

2. Watch some videos on youtube of experienced dealers getting pieces back from the grading companies. Note even people who live, eat, breath, and deal coins for a living cannot accurately predict what grade the companies will give.
And...the "fault" (it not really a fault, but a misconception) is in the widespread mistaken perception people get from being exposed to all the slabs being sold nowadays.

Coin grading companies are a business out to make a profit - this is why they exist. They use a system where (allegedly) three graders look at each coin and give an opinion. The company videos showing the process make you believe this is a relaxed paced process of studying each coin. In fact one PCGS video shows a number of guys sitting around a table discussing what they think a specific coin should be graded as (on youtube somewhere - sorry I don't have the link). Uh uh...not reality. The amount of coins graded in one day does not allow this kind of comfortable debate.

If you take a PCGS graded coin slabbed as MS64, break it out, and resubmit it to PCGS, you are never guaranteed the same grade again. The slabbed coin might come back MS62 (graders having a bad day), 63, 64, 65, 66 (great day for you!). The extremes mentioned are uncommon, but do happen.

The grading is imprecise b/c the process is all subjective: No scientific/verifiable standards or methods are used.

Personally having talked with former graders (granted - its been awhile), the process is very rushed since they told me graders are paid by how many coins they can get through in a day. However, a member on this forum informed me not long ago it is a salary based operation now.

But..this is all hearsay without proof. So...
http://goccf.com/t/346174#2967242


Here is another good read from someone there at the start of the grading companies:
[URL="http://goccf.com/t/130186]Hobby negative impacts from slabbing companies[/url]

Also link to and read (download if you want it) the pdf link in my signature. The verifiable data presented shows trusting people have spent thousands of dollars on many slabbed coins that are not what the companies claims/slabbed the coins to be.

Please note:
You don't have to throw in the towel over these companies...but education about the reality of them will put you on the right pathway to dealing with them in a legit way without losing money in the process.

And... if you just like to collect slabbed coins for what they are, which makes losing/making money from slabs irrelevant, then of course enjoy them! Its a hobby...have fun!
The slabbed Half dollar No FG farce: Download No-FG half vs. Grading Company Claims report here:
https://tinyurl.com/yalrstjz or higher resolution version: https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8

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 Posted 06/13/2021  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OriginalAtog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for the poor photos, here is some better ones. I had a difficult time due to how shiny it is.

Yep, I looked at PCGS, EBay listed (graded) coins, etc... to try and get a idea of where it would fall. I was thinking somewhere MS64-66 based on what I was looking at. But I'm still new at this and am trying to improve my skills.


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 Posted 06/28/2021  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks circulated to me. AU-58.
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 Posted 06/28/2021  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too many small contact marks all over.

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Sorry for the poor photos, here is some better ones. I had a difficult time due to how shiny it is.

Yep, I looked at PCGS, EBay listed (graded) coins, etc... to try and get a idea of where it would fall. I was thinking somewhere MS64-66 based on what I was looking at. But I'm still new at this and am trying to improve my skills.

It takes an exceptional coin without contact marks and wear to (hopefully - its a gamble) be worth the costs of slabbing.
It might be good to go to a show and find some inexpensive slabbed coins to study at different grade levels. But then you also need to keep in mind you could break that coin out and resubmit it to the same company and not get the same grade again. You are trying to learn, which is great. Just get some exposure to actual graded items and know noting scientific is used to grade them...so a "feel" for the variance is needed.

This variance and subjectivity is what makes it so that even a very experienced dealer who lives, eats, breathes, and drinks coins cannot make consistent good money playing the grading game.
The slabbed Half dollar No FG farce: Download No-FG half vs. Grading Company Claims report here:
https://tinyurl.com/yalrstjz or higher resolution version: https://tinyurl.com/y7rksxu8

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 Posted 06/28/2021  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 06/29/2021  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS63 maybe MS64 but I dont think it would go any higher based on the photos presented
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 Posted 06/29/2021  09:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Either AU-58 or MS-63 tops.
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