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1988 D WAM Lincoln Cent

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 Posted 09/12/2021  1:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nikileec1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Just found this 1988D with the initials almost gone and possible doubling on reverse. Need help confirming and your guess on value and grade, planning to sell.

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 Posted 09/12/2021  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin rejector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unnecessary to grade, '88 WAM is normal for that year.... value, .01
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 Posted 09/12/2021  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree.
All LMC are WAM up until 1992.
Also that is Split Plate Doubling on the reverse, not a Doubled Die.
The value is on the coin.
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 Posted 09/12/2021  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobO411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. I'm sorry but I agree with the others.
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 Posted 09/12/2021  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HGK3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not entirely accurate.

There is a recognized variety in 1988 known as the WAM. However, what distinguishes it from no WAM's is not the gap between A & M, as is the case with the later varieties, but the shape of the FG.

In the 1988 WAM the shape of the G will have the horizontal serif as well as the vertical "chin". It will look more like the G used in this font.

In looking at your cent I see the normal G, not the WAM.
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 Posted 09/12/2021  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The op is wondering about 88 with the rev of 89 transitional variety. We need a closer look at the designers initials. I don't know why they come up with WAM on 88, they all are WAM's. I type to slow
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 Posted 09/12/2021  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nikileec1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 88 with 89 back is what I'm referring to. I'll get you guys a pic of just the initial
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 Posted 09/12/2021  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OPs' coin is the normal 005 http://doubleddie.com/58348.html
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 Posted 09/12/2021  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply




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 Posted 09/12/2021  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When you look at the devices on AME on America, the devices are rounded, not flat. So this is the normal RDV-005 reverse die. On the RDV-006, these devices are flat and wider. That is the "so called" wide variety the grading companies are miss leading collectors with. All 1988 cents are wide AMs. Just total confusion. Look ate the AME area and that will help ID these easier.

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 Posted 09/12/2021  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As Cujohn, John, Coinfrog, and Coop have said, Wide AM is on every 1988 Lincoln cent (even the proofs). That is the design for all coins that year. PCGS and other sites confuse people by using the " Wide AM" as a diagnostic.

" Wide AM" as not a diagnostic for any variety in 1988. Using that phrase for any 1988 Lincoln cent is like saying Lincoln faces right so it is the variety.

So in conclusion, No, No, No, that is not a diagnostic for any variety in 1988.

Keep on searching. Those RDV-006 are out there (I have yet to locate one from either mint).


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There is a recognized variety in 1988 known as the WAM.

Again, No, no, no. Not correct.
HGK3, can you provide a link to that variety please?
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 Posted 09/12/2021  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The differences in these two RDV numbers can be identified as I mentioned. Probably no one else knows this except for those here, as I discovered it a long time before.
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 Posted 09/13/2021  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HGK3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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HGK3, can you provide a link to that variety please?


https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...01-rd/569369

I agree that the space between the A & M on the 1988 cent is not a diagnostic for this variety and that all 1988 cents show the wide spacing.

I also agree that the use of " Wide AM" as a designation is confusing, since the Wide AM itself isn't what identifies the Wide AM variety. As noted in my previous post, the most reliable diagnostic (IMO) is the shape of the FG.

However, " Wide AM" is what the industry has chosen to call it, so we're stuck with that name for the variety. We can complain about how confusing the variety's name is (and it is very confusing) but it doesn't change the fact that the 1988 Wide AM is a recognized variety.
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 Posted 09/13/2021  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Value is one cent. No premium, sorry.

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 Posted 09/13/2021  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobO411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep confusing. I think remembering back 88,89 90ish around those years hearing about the WideAM on 1988. Thinking they're all wide AMs.
What's the big deal and why would they point that out only on 1988? Why not mention just about the 89 FG on 88 and then 88FG on 1989?

I see them mentioning the CloseAM on 1992 or Wide on 98,99,2000.
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