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Help Needed In Identifying A 1692 Stag Head Token

 
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 Posted 10/18/2021  01:23 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Landyman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I recently acquired a 1692 token but am having difficulty in identifying its origin or use. It was described as a possible mining/colliery token.
The token is made of bronze (or possibly copper), has a diameter of 27.9mm with a ///// edge. The obverse has a stag's head erased (family crest?) with bead ornamentation close to the rim. The reverse includes the 1692 date preceded by a dot and has what appear to be four acorns, the upper two with an indistinct shape between and the lower two with a star between. The reverse also has bead ornamentation.
As the token is quite worn I have included a drawing (please excuse the poor quality).
Does anyone have any ideas/clues as to the origin or use of this token?


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 Posted 10/18/2021  04:47 am  Show Profile   Check PaddyB's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Interesting token, but sadly I can't immediately help you. I had a similar problem with a later token that had a Bear on it. Eventually tracked it down as a "Manorial token" issued by a posh household in Sussex.
I think your best approach is to research the Stag's Head motif amongst family crests around 1692 - may well be Scottish or Northern England.
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 Posted 10/18/2021  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your drawing of your token is a great likeness. I'll look around for a bit and see if I can be of any help. Neat token. Excellent presentation for inquiry and

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Seems the same images once appeared on simmonsgallery.co.uk
No longer found there.
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Nice drawings.

Better than anything I could have come up with.

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 Posted 10/18/2021  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Landyman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for the responses - I have looked through Fairbairns Book of Crests but have not found this particular crest. The reference book lists "stag's head erased" as being used by a number of families but none seem to correspond with the correct time period (so far).
I am curious as to why it is dated - perhaps it was meant as a token limited for use during the stated year - for deer hunting / stalking? If that were true I wouldn't expect it to show so much wear. It was not listed as a detector find but it does show some corrosion. However, that doesn't explain the wear.
TNG - my token is the one from Simmons.
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 Posted 10/18/2021  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@landy, first welcome to CCF. Second, at least according to simmons gallery, this seems to be a coal miner's tag. With that said, most of the other examples of this seem to have counterstamped numbers and a more cleanly punched hole. I recommend reaching out to Simmons as this specific piece was in their possession at one point. If nothing else, it helps to establish some provenance for you.
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 Posted 10/18/2021  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David Graham to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to say without the token in front of me but I'm having trouble making a 6 from the image. Looks like 1092. Good luck...
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