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1937-D Obverse Of 3 Leg?

 
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 Posted 10/25/2021  5:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jerry Picker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This thing looks to have all of the markers on the obverse for a 3 leg. I wonder if there was a second reverse die used. Funny how the auctioneer used 2 different backgrounds. I was going to bid on it anyway.

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 Posted 10/25/2021  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lawest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Doesn't look like a 3-legged buffalo. I would not make my decision based on what may or may not be OBV markers
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 Posted 10/25/2021  6:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oops, didn't know there are obverse markers for the 3-leg!
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 Posted 10/25/2021  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jerry Picker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@lawest I didn't say it was, because obviously it isn't. I was just wondering if there were other reverse dies with the same obverse die as a 3 leg.
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 Posted 10/25/2021  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jerry Picker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply



1. Notice the forehead of the Indian
2. The separation of the second feather ( this occurs in other non-3L also)
3. Rough area at back of neck
4. Rough area in front of braid. Upside down V.
5. Die break ( bottom arrow)
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 Posted 10/25/2021  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for these.
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 Posted 10/25/2021  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jerry Picker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Coinfrog I added some descriptions.
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 Posted 10/25/2021  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Check jacrispies's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting. The obverse markers are definitely there. I think I see the roughness behind the rear leg and the "pee stream" on the reverse.

The difference in background is most likely from the coin being in some kind of foam holder. Black on one side with a white paper material on the other.
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 Posted 10/25/2021  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Check sheldius's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe it was right before the die clash that forced the mint to repolish the die. ADE is a die event, so I'm guessing it can happen anywhere in the life use of the die.
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 Posted 10/25/2021  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO, it is a completely different die used, not that of a 3 leg. Two reasons.

1: to my knowledge there was only one die pairing used. If this is the case, the MM location looks to be higher than that of the MM location on the 3 leg variety. Therefore, cannot be the same die.

2. Sheldius has an interesting thought on the earlier die state, BUT, I don't think this is the case. There are a few examples of die stage B, a Proto 3 leg. These examples still have remnants of the 4th leg visible (making it more or less a 3 1/2 leg). That said, during this die stage, the small feather is still complete and not detached from the hair/neckline. If the OP's example were indeed an earlier die state of the 3 leg, based on the obverse Die Deterioration, the reverse should already show relativity strong removal of the 4th leg.

The obverse Die Deterioration in Jerry Pickers example are common in a LDS buff. The separation of the feather and heavy flow lines, in combination with the eroded die are very similar in appearance across many dates (especially in 20's branch mint).
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 Posted 10/26/2021  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jerry Picker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your input Ty2020b
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