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This thing looks to have all of the markers on the obverse for a 3 leg. I wonder if there was a second reverse die used. Funny how the auctioneer used 2 different backgrounds. I was going to bid on it anyway. Obverse  Reverse 
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Doesn't look like a 3-legged buffalo. I would not make my decision based on what may or may not be OBV markers
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Oops, didn't know there are obverse markers for the 3-leg! 
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@lawest I didn't say it was, because obviously it isn't. I was just wondering if there were other reverse dies with the same obverse die as a 3 leg.
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 1. Notice the forehead of the Indian 2. The separation of the second feather ( this occurs in other non-3L also) 3. Rough area at back of neck 4. Rough area in front of braid. Upside down V. 5. Die break ( bottom arrow)
Edited by Jerry Picker 10/25/2021 6:40 pm
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@Coinfrog I added some descriptions.
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Interesting. The obverse markers are definitely there. I think I see the roughness behind the rear leg and the "pee stream" on the reverse.
The difference in background is most likely from the coin being in some kind of foam holder. Black on one side with a white paper material on the other.
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Maybe it was right before the die clash that forced the mint to repolish the die. ADE is a die event, so I'm guessing it can happen anywhere in the life use of the die.
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IMO, it is a completely different die used, not that of a 3 leg. Two reasons. 1: to my knowledge there was only one die pairing used. If this is the case, the MM location looks to be higher than that of the MM location on the 3 leg variety. Therefore, cannot be the same die. 2. Sheldius has an interesting thought on the earlier die state, BUT, I don't think this is the case. There are a few examples of die stage B, a Proto 3 leg. These examples still have remnants of the 4th leg visible (making it more or less a 3 1/2 leg). That said, during this die stage, the small feather is still complete and not detached from the hair/neckline. If the OP's example were indeed an earlier die state of the 3 leg, based on the obverse Die Deterioration, the reverse should already show relativity strong removal of the 4th leg. The obverse Die Deterioration in Jerry Pickers example are common in a LDS buff. The separation of the feather and heavy flow lines, in combination with the eroded die are very similar in appearance across many dates (especially in 20's branch mint).
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Thanks for your input Ty2020b
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