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Abbasid Caliphate Dinar: Can Anyone Narrow Down The Ruler And Year? Id: Aghlabids (North Africa)

 
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 Posted 01/08/2022  2:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Message



Unfortunatly I do not have better images, nor the weight, so I am assuming dinar weighty.

If the images are too poor, let me know and I can try to get better ones. These ones are third hand.
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01/09/2022 10:33 am
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 Posted 01/09/2022  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not 'Abbasids but Aghlabids (North Africa), 'Abd Allah I, 811-816, no mint, dated AH 197 in reverse margin. Note the word ghalib above reverse and the name 'Abd Allah below. Album 437 (R).

Here's a similar piece dated 198:
https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=208089
Edited by Kushanshah
01/09/2022 01:19 am
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 Posted 01/09/2022  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, @Kushanshah. No wonder I could not find a match.
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 Posted 01/09/2022  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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No wonder I could not find a match.

To be fair, it does look exactly like an early Abbasid dinar, just with a couple of lines of text different https://www.ma-shops.com/cdma/item.php?id=879377
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I will confess that it took me longer than it should have. The word ghalib is a dead giveaway for the Aghlabids but I was focused on the date and the name. There's a lesson in that, I think.
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 Posted 01/09/2022  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There's a lesson for me, too. Looks almost exactly alike might mean a variety I cannot find or another dynasty doing something similar.
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 Posted 01/10/2022  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is only with hindsight that historians split the Aghlabids off as an separate dynasty. In theory, they were the governors of Ifriqiyya (Tunisia) for the 'Abbasids. Instead of a new governor being appointed periodically by the caliph, as was done in most provinces, the governorship of Ifriqiya was passed down through the Aghlabid family in dynastic fashion for about 100 years. Partly due to their distance from Baghdad, they exercised a good deal of autonomy but never actually declared independence. The resemblance of their coins to contemporary 'Abbasid issues is no coincidence. In a sense, that is exactly what they were intended to be, at least nominally.

For better or worse, the only way to confidently attribute Islamic coins is to learn to read the inscriptions. I won't pretend it's easy but I've enjoyed the journey.
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01/10/2022 01:07 am
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