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1921 S Morgan Dollar

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 Posted 01/19/2022  5:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MissyLynn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I got a 1921 s Morgan dollar. I'm trying to see if it is a VAM and if there is toning. The grade is xf. I AM going to post better pics but I thought we could start with toning and move from there.
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 Posted 01/19/2022  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The numerous black spots kinda ruin the appearance of the coin (at least in that picture) in my opinion.
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 Posted 01/19/2022  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MissyLynn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The numerous black spots kinda ruin the appearance of the coin (at least in that picture) in my opinion.

I agree there but it was a relatively inexpensive coin, and I may opt to have it conserved at a later date. The reverse is in better shape but I could not upload it.
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 Posted 01/19/2022  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There appears to be some golden toning but full pictures are really gonna be needed to help determine a VAM.

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 Posted 01/19/2022  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can add that all Morgan and Peace dollars are assigned a VAM variety automatically, with the exception of new discoveries.
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 Posted 01/19/2022  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Full pics of both sides, please.
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 Posted 01/20/2022  03:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MissyLynn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yall I'm trying to get the pics up but whoever picked that insane free optimizer, it's not user friendly!
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 Posted 01/20/2022  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MissyLynn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the best I could do.


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 Posted 01/20/2022  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I understand about the optimizer —— I had trouble for years trying to figure it out, too!

As far as a VAM goes on your coin I can't determine which it is.

As far as a grade goes I'm somewhere between XF and AU.

Not rare enough to justify a "professional" conservation in my opinion. If it were mine I'd dip it in the magical blue pool for a few seconds and rinse it off. It is what it is.
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 Posted 01/20/2022  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say EF-40.
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 Posted 01/20/2022  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MissyLynn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any suggestions on how to get a better idea on the VAM? I've been to VAM World and I'm still going down the list. And how do I get that black stuff off?
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 Posted 01/20/2022  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can try an acetone soak, but don't set your hopes too high.
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 Posted 01/20/2022  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I tried to do something with the pics you just recently uploaded but cannot make out anything, just a bit too fuzzy still. When you go to the 1921 S VAM's page, check the four things I have arrows beside first, they are some of the easier ways to possibly narrow it down. The die crack guide, the thornheads, the clashed dies and the bean bottom S. After those, it's just picking it apart. Hopefully, with coin in hand, you can do better at seeing these attributes.

LINK http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c.../1921-S_VAMs


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 Posted 01/21/2022  04:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MissyLynn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bean Bag S is out. There seems to be Polish around the left wreath. I'll try to get pics up later. Oh and the black stuff did not come off and I read up on the blue stuff...I have not tried it and I won't as I hate harsh chemicals. Also the acetone...well what I saw said no longer than 5 seconds. I'd be one to get distracted.
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 Posted 01/25/2022  04:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MissyLynn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK so I haven't made any progress on this VAM. With the numerous VAMS this one seems to have, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed. I did decide to play with the camera and see what would happen when I reduce the file size when transferring to the phone. I think it's worse. But does anyone use anything other than that horrible image optimizer?
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 Posted 01/25/2022  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know it's kind of archaic but I use "paint".
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