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 Posted 06/19/2022  11:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CaptJeffWorthFL to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Is the caused from a worn out die, Mechanical Doubling or shelving?


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 Posted 06/20/2022  05:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks more like DDD to me.
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 Posted 06/20/2022  06:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Caused by a deteriorating die.
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 Posted 06/20/2022  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if it might be a bit of a mix of MD over DDD, you should hang onto it for reference. I had a lot of trouble with doubled dies when I started and as you see more examples of all forms of doubling they start to just stand out to you(at least in most cases) I have seen a few examples of doubled dies that were flattened by MD, idk how hard it would be if I saw a doubled die with DDD and MD to be able to tell of it was a doubled die.

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 Posted 06/20/2022  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
More of Machine Doubling. If we saw other areas of the design, the devices on the left side of the coin will be showing the same Machine Doubling die direction. If the opposite is happening on the left side of the coin, then it could be DDD. Note on the motto area, the devices are all showing a push from Machine Doubling an an aging die. Note on all of the devices we are seeing a push on the metal that forms the right side of the devices, and the rest is mush. DDD starts on the fields of the affected areas. So I''m learning towards Machine Doubling an an aging die. Images of the other areas will reveal what is really going on with this coin.
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 Posted 06/20/2022  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptJeffWorthFL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah. I had to go through all of my coins and discard or set aside the DDD or MD coins. Which pretty much left me with nothing but silvers, S mints, W mints and common errors and die breaks and chips. So I am still without a DDO or DDR.
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 Posted 06/21/2022  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First: Are you looking for the DDO / DDR's in the correct areas? The doubled dies on the post 1999 quarters are more in the centers of the designs. Note on the outer edges of the devices like the quarters of the past. The single squeeze dies creates them in a different area. So take a look at the listings for the locations of the doubled dies. Then you will know better, where to look for these.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 06/21/2022  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptJeffWorthFL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop, thanks for the information. I will look at the listing here and on variety vista to help me get a better eye for DDO and DDR. Will post definitely if and when I find an authentic.
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 Posted 06/21/2022  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you are going to be lookngi strictly for error coins, a good way to start finding them is to organize your coins by type/year/then MM (Lincoln Cent/1558/D for example) then got to CC (copper coins) or VV (Variety Vista) or other sites to get familiar with that coin and what errors to expect then hit the scope and search them.
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 Posted 06/21/2022  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On the reverses, the can be different on each design. But on the obverses, the Areas are mainly the earlobe and the motto.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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