@env, first welcome to CCF. Second, it is best practice to only post one coin per thread but it also best practice to not post duplicate threads. You have done both, so I have kept the two threads, but made them each about one of your coins. You will get the best replies in this way.
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I don't think you are going to get meaningful responses without clear pictures of the date and mintmark areas. This is a tough date, highly counterfeited.
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