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Valued Member
United States
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I noticed the lines going through the eagle like in photo 3, like the Sacagawea dollar eagle kind of; is it a broken die for the 2, which is causing the void that's there? I think by 1, looks like a small G and the 4 has something going on with the shield. Can I get some experts opinions please   
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Difficult to tell given the soft nature of the pics posted. Having said that, I believe I'm seeing some post-strike damage and possibly a die chip or two.
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Bedrock of the Community

Canada
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I don't see anything there that can't be attributed to circulation damage. You are looking too hard for things that aren't there. Suggest reading up on a site like error-ref.com to learn what real errors look like.
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Bedrock of the Community

United States
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Sharper closeups of the areas that interest you would be helpful.
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Valued Member
United States
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Curious as to the doubling I see also. Specifically on the eagle head, with the doubling going to the left, and the M, with it's doubling going to the right. Going in different directions eliminates Machine Doubling so what is the reason for that? Jimmy D perhaps in all your infinite wisdom perhaps I can be worthy of a drop of knowledge please sir
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Valued Member
United States
53 Posts |
And the blob on Kennedy's ear at the bottom?
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Pillar of the Community

United States
2545 Posts |
Not seeing anything that can't be explained as circulation damage. Reed Marks, dings, and scrapes.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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OK. What we have here:
Observe it is a normal Die. Reverse: 1. The Die use here was a Die recycled from the SMS strike which was use in April 1965. 2. The photo 3 long line come from deterioration of the Die. 3. Tong is longer then the normal strike of the 1964 and is normal for a die for SMS. Variety is considerate if was touch the ray or pass over. I have only 6 like this from more then 10K coins study. 4. The head is considerate as MD. Same like you focus on the head you can see on the both wings. If was only the head will be need to analyze more, but I find to many to be Double Die and to less to be Hub Doubling.
I hope now you has a clear vision of your coin.
Edited by silviosi 11/29/2022 6:30 pm
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Bedrock of the Community

United States
13855 Posts |
The shield on the reverse looks like contact marks from another reeded coin.
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Pillar of the Community

United States
9166 Posts |
I'm seeing normal circulation damage marks, plus the observations silviosi so accurately makes.
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Valued Member
United States
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Silviosi so this would be considered an SMS variety? What kind of value would this carry
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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It is not an SMS variety. Was just use the SMS's pre-retried Dies to complete the production for normal strike. Those coins are abundant in the market. The difference it is those coins are more nicer then the previous business strike coins and sure anybody who want to has a nice crisp design will wish for collection. I have no Idea about prices, me I analyze and study the coins. If you want wont to know, me I work with Heritage, Sotheby's and Christies. Ok I have some 2 others famous persons who touch my own collector association.
Edited by silviosi 11/29/2022 9:34 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
722 Posts |
just a regular business strike that had sustained a few circulation hits.
@silviosi: ? link to where they say SMS dies are recycled please.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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@JTTC Made a request to the Phil Mint to show you the 1964 and 1968 archive. Good Luck for. Also you can look of the Mint Report and Congress decisions of 1964.
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Bedrock of the Community

United States
60980 Posts |
Still a silver melt coin. So it is a keeper for that at least. Looks like contact marks on the reverse areas in the center. ( Reed Marks from another coin)
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Bedrock of the Community

Canada
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Quote:Curious as to the doubling I see also. Specifically on the eagle head, with the doubling going to the left, and the M, with it's doubling going to the right. Going in different directions eliminates Machine Doubling so what is the reason for that? Jimmy D perhaps in all your infinite wisdom perhaps I can be worthy of a drop of knowledge please sir Sorry for the delay, I just noticed this now. I never commented on the doubling as you did not highlight it as one of the areas that you wanted an opinion on. The Eagle head is Machine Doubling, not sure where you see doubling on the M.
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