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 Posted 01/14/2023  9:47 pm Show Profile   Check 1960NYGiants's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add 1960NYGiants to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Looking for info on this piece: YEILDING'S PATENT STEEL

Nothing coming up on Google.


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 Posted 01/14/2023  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Didn't find it in the Brunk book on American and Canadian Counter stamped Coinage. Though there is a paragraph on steel companies (page 6) and how they made a lot of test stamps on silver coins (nothing on copper) to test new alloys.

https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/606196
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"Yield" is a property of steel so I suspect it's spelled wrong and has nothing to do with a company or person's name. The stamp and the hole look rather fresh relative to the age of the coin so I'm curious about that. Why doesn't the exposed metal look like copper?
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I have a few counter stamped Two Cent coins that have a very similar look to the metal area that was stamped out. Almost a white chalky like substance, some sort of corrosion likely. Very reminiscent of stuff found on car battery terminals, yet not as flaky nor corrosive.

It also could be wiped with something after it was stamped and whatever it was was left in the recesses to create this look? Interesting whatever it is.
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OP may have applied chalk to make the CS more visible. Will need clarification on this.
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The white is talcum powder I applied to help the stamp stand out.
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 Posted 01/15/2023  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There's an apostrophe and an "S" after "YEILDING", making it "YEILDING'S". Which certainly implies it's a name, not just a reference to a property of steel.

Google says there was a store by that name in Birmingham, Alabama, from the 1870s. Not sure if or why a 50+ year old token from Nova Scotia would have been used as a piece of scrap metal way down there. But it does prove that the "wrong spelling of Yielding" was/is a family name in North America in the 1800s.
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The white is talcum powder I applied to help the stamp stand out.


Good to know we were thinking something didn't quite look right there as it was. We may not know it all but we are an observant bunch.
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 Posted 01/15/2023  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Check 1960NYGiants's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 1960NYGiants to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The color under the stamp is the same or darker than the surface of the token. The hole is drilled and its edges are also the same color as the token.

Thanks @Sap - I found the store in Alabama. It is a department store with no obvious link to a steel mill. I correct my OP to add the 's.

The search continues ...
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I noted the stuff after "YEILDING" but presuming it's " 'S " is up to the viewer. The presumed 'S is offset, partial, a different font size, and both PATENT and STEEL are partially multiply struck and also offset. Then STEEL is struck by itself on the other side, indicating that it's separate word, or even separate letter punches. I was pointing out that it could be a spelling error. There are other patents by someone named Yeilding, like a corn harvester by Richard Yeilding in 1862 Michigan (much closer to Canada), perhaps made from yielding steel.
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