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 Posted 01/26/2023  5:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Datguyy77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Pictures I see on wexlers and variety Vista don't always show actual doubling of coins. So therefore when I'm looking at the coin and I don't see doubling myself I might get into the habit of just throwing it to the side. But if my coin looks exactly like the one in the picture with details to the letters and etc is there any other way to tell if it is a doubled die? And are the letters and number shapes to match up even if it's not a doubled die?
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 Posted 01/26/2023  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure I understand your post. All three sites and a few more show what the DD is. You have to have the DD first, then you look for markers second. But sometimes the DD you have might be an earlier or later die state. So sometimes the markers won't be there. You have to have the DD first.
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 Posted 01/26/2023  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add datadragon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not all doubling has value unfortunately and so the best way is to first lookup the coin in a book like strike it rich with pocket change 5th edition or the websites to see if a doubled die exists for that coin and will typically show both the image of the doubling plus any additional markers to help confirm it that you should be able to find on the coin itself. The book contains the main ones but not all the obscure ones that may be more difficult to identify for newcomers and/or may not have much value. If at that point you are still not sure if you found it you can always post on this forum to ask prior to sending it for confirmation to one of those sites or a grading company as that costs money to different degrees. Sometimes as mentioned things dont always match up 100% and that may be ok due to the die state, but if say its a 1955 Lincoln cent with doubling I would expect that even a novice would be able to id it using this method https://doubleddie.com/302101.html
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 Posted 01/26/2023  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MetalEarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm waiting for the day to find a doubling as depicted in datadragon's link. https://doubleddie.com/302101.html
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 Posted 01/26/2023  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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don't always show actual doubling of coins


Are you sure about that or perhaps the doubling is subtle enough that you just aren't recognizing it yet? Maybe add a couple links of examples where you aren't seeing doubling to this thread and we can steer you to the right spots.
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 Posted 01/27/2023  04:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
( I'm no pro, it's just my humble opinion )
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 Posted 01/27/2023  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HGK3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One thing to remember is that it's crucial to read the description of the doubling on these sites as that tells you what to look for to determine if your coin has any doubling.

Don't rely on just the photos as these websites put up many photos of coins, to show die makers or demonstrate stages for instance, that don't involve the doubling.

Take the 1980 LMC obverse double die listed on Variety Vista as an example:

http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...0PDDO001.htm

The description reads:

Description: Strong spread on LIBERTY, coat, and date.

But it's not until you get to the 9th photograph that you see any of that. The first 8 are of other parts of the coin and of no help establishing what the doubling actually looks like.

Read the description, then look at the areas described, then compare those areas to your coin. Only use the photos of the non described areas to confirm die markers or if you're interested in determining what stage you might have.
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 Posted 01/27/2023  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why Does Everyone Think They Have A Doubled Die? Answered on this link below.
http://goccf.com/t/439300#3782155
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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