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Want An Ephraim Brasher Regulated Coin Without Spending A Million+ Dollars?

 
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 Posted 03/06/2023  5:45 pm Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Stack's Bowers has this cool colonial item up for sale from the 3rd Sydney F. Martin sale...

https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...ew/3-11DLEJ/

A really neat Brazil 1754-B 6400 Reis that was regulated by Brasher, then reworked with a clip and new reeding added on after the fact. I'm not sure how much this will sell for ultimately but it should be well under a million dollars.

With all the extra reworking on the coin I am surprised it isn't a details coin though. (I do really like the look of the custom provenance label for the Syd Martin Sales, I have a few already from previous sales).

Bonus - the provenance on this coin includes the great collector Waldo Newcomer who acquired it from the B. Max Mehl sale of H.O. Granberg in 1913 for $165.00



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See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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 Posted 03/06/2023  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not $millions, but starting at $33,000 it is not chump change.
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 Posted 03/06/2023  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Not $millions, but starting at $33,000 it is not chump change.


True - the last one of these sold for almost $130K
https://coins.ha.com/itm/colonials/.../1326-3937.s

The last two actual Brasher coins sold for:

$9,360,000.00
$2,100,000.00

Seems the average price that gold coins fro this era which he personally regulated sell for around $125,000.00+ now days. Heck even silverware and the like bring upwards of $2K to $3K per utensil. His actual coins however are way out of bounds for the mere mortal collectors, fetching multiple millions now.
Even the nice Robinson copies bring over $1K now.

Guess a spoon or fork is about all I can afford to actually have one of his creations.

To read an older thread on this subject see this: http://goccf.com/t/388843


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 Posted 03/06/2023  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting. I love these kinds of stories. Thanks for sharing.


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... it should be well under a million dollars.

I had to chuckle since my budget of less than $100 would qualify as being "well under a million".

Wow, ok. That Syd Martin. Very nice guy.

I "stumbled" upon him when I had a St. Patrick's farthing I purchased that had been found "by a lady doing some gardening" in NJ. I hadn't a clue but after some research, I found him to be an authority and he graciously volunteered to look it over since he was doing research on them. Turns out it was only a cast lead copy from the mid-60s by Peter Rosa and the Becker Manufacturing company. He was disappointed of course but he was informative, very diplomatic, and detailed with his write-up.
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 Posted 03/06/2023  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great story on Syd Petespockets55! Love to read about collectors, and though I never met Syd he seemed like a fantastic guy, very generous with his time from everything I've read and heard on him. I got into colonial coinage mainly through reading about St. Patrick farthings, and of course finding out about Syd that way. My interests branched off to all things colonial very quickly and my book collection too. I can't really afford many of the early American coinage I'd like to collect today, though with the colonials it's a bit more affordable, and from that lead me down the path to pre American coinage to British Conder Tokens, which are quite affordable even today and in higher grades.

I have Syd's colonial book set, which includes the St. Patrick Farthing, a great reference book to have in any numismatic library. I'd love to someday own a real St. Patrick farthing!
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 Posted 03/07/2023  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Last sold in 2008 for $57600. https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...k-au-53-PCGS
I'll guess somewhere around $200k this time. Interesting story.
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 Posted 03/07/2023  01:16 am  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the Syd F. Martin collection PCGS provenance label if you haven't seen one before...

Note the cert label ID is on the back, though on the Stack's Bowers site it is covered up by the S/B Logo they put on all their auction slabs on their website. My two Rosa Americana coins I purchased from a previous Syd F. Martin auction is exactly the same, but the reverse has the coin ID/Serial number and barcode in a very small font.
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See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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Enjoyable read @Westcoin - thanks for sharing.
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 Posted 03/24/2023  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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kbbpll: I'll guess somewhere around $200k this time.


Not too far off it ended up selling for $168,000.00 Well under a million dollars too!
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013!
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See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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