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1942 P Type 2 Mint Error On A Silver Planchet Weighing 4.6/4.7 Grams

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 Posted 03/23/2023  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aliabeans to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yall drive me nuts the compositions are the same go to PCGS and read. Later yall
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 Posted 03/23/2023  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Type 1 was the regular copper nickel composition, Type 2 was the silver manganese. Better read what PCGS says about it. https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...-type-1/4013 https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/cate...942-1945/679
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 Posted 03/23/2023  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aliabeans to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The composition of the one in question is wait for it...........75% Copper 25% Silver 0% Manganese. So on my behalf my apologies I misspoke and was wrong....and to be fare we were both wrong. I just looked it up on the Herritage Auction site. So once again the "Composition" of the coin is the error. The composition of the planchet is the error. They did not make type 1s or type 2s 75% copper and 25% silver period, and that is why it sold for almost $10,000.
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 Posted 03/23/2023  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here Heritage's write up says it was struck on the type 2 silver alloy composition. Nowhere does it say 75% nickel 25% silver. Beneath the description it does say weight 5.00 grams and composition 75% nickel 25% copper. Neither of which apply to this coin, so that must just be stock info for the 1942 type 1 nickel. https://coins.ha.com/itm/jefferson-.../1238-3529.s
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 Posted 03/23/2023  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Folks - there is nothing to see here. Noise and chatter only. Move on

I look forward to the OP showing us a PCGS slab of his valuable coins.
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art
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In your original post you say " it won't let me show the large P mint mark on top of the building". That's where it's supposed to be on a silver War Nickel. You have a regular typ 2, with the mm above the Monticello. If it was the rare one there wouldn't be a mint mark anywhere on the coin. And I don't know where you got 25% silver, the one that sold for 9 g is a regular war nikel that was 35% silver, with no mint mark anywhere on it.
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 Posted 03/23/2023  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't know where you got 25% silver,


He got it from the Heritage Auction listing that was posted for the coin in this topic. It's a typo as the full description of the coin states that it's normal War Nickel composition.
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Can you made an XRF to the most closer goldsmith? If is slabbed you will have something 1% others elements but will be OK. The 4.806gr. is the minimal weigh. So if the Ni was replace with pure silver will be normal to be underweight. The normal what we say Silver Nickel personally I doubt they use only Silver at 999 purity, was the war time.

Let see the follows up.
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@ Aliabeans:
Thanks for posting this coin, it struck up a nice conversation about these war time nickels.

can you post up an image of the reverse for us?
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 Posted 03/23/2023  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aliabeans to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you goto Herritage Auction Website(Since that is where the 1942 Nickel was sold) Look up the nickel the Info to look it up is above and in whinformation of the coin it clearly states the composition of the coin and why it was special. I find it humorous that you all are so eager to shoot down my facts without even verifying them but sure I can goto their website for you and take a screen shot and then post it here for you. I just don't know why you are all so against me being right lol. AND my nickel isn't 4.8 grams its 4.6 grams. All my nickel needs to be when it gets tested to be a mint error due to the planchet is not have the correct composition. PCGS own website tells you what the type 1 and type 2 compositions are. So I strongly suggest reading more before trying to tell someone that they are wrong. Lastly yes I will gladly post the reverse as soon as it will let me I have used all my free pictures for today.
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 Posted 03/24/2023  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aliabeans to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is verbatim copy of what is said on Herritage Auction Website about the nickeln good lord you all need to trust and have faith in women speech! lol


1942 Type One Nickel, Good 6
On a Silver Alloy Planchet
Extremely Rare Transitional Error
1942 5C Type One -- Struck on a Silver Alloy Planchet -- Good 6 PCGS Secure. 4.7 gm. 1943-dated cents struck on copper planchets bring spectacular prices, but similar wartime wrong alloy transitional errors on Jefferson nickels are significantly rarer. Our online auction archives reveal only two examples, both 1944-P nickels struck on copper-nickel planchets (lot 5610 in our August 2001 Signature, and lot 10306 in our June 2004 Signature). The present lot is struck from sans-mintmark Type One dies, yet is struck in the silver alloy composition associated with the Type Two design bearing a large P mintmark above Monticello. This lightly marked cream-gray example displays wear on the motifs but the legends are fully readable and show only slight blending with the rim. Included with the lot is a two-page typed authentication letter, dated May 20, 1965, and signed in ink by Walter Breen, and a clipping of a June 16, 1965 Coin World article written by Breen that reported his determination.(Registry values: N1)

Coin Index Numbers: (NGC ID# 22TK, PCGS# 4013)

Weight: 5.00 grams

Metal: 75% Copper, 25% Nickel
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Do you like bulling the peoples?
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 Posted 03/24/2023  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aliabeans to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now this article in itself from heritage auction and their information contradicts P CGS's own information because P CGS States that the type one and type 2 both have magnanies in it there are no 1940 nickels at all 41 42 43 44 and 435 that are 75% copper and 25% silver with no other alloys in its composition there are none so All my nickel has to be is not the composition that it's supposed to be according to P CGS and the US mint The only thing that made me look into this was when I weighed my nickel it was 4.6 g and I had just watched the video about time nickel selling for almost $10000 mine had the same hue to it and just by chance it weighed basically the same so that's why I'm taking it analyzed by the machine so fingers cross I come out with a lucky lottery winner if not oh well But at least I tried and I didn't just toss it out. Hope this helps you all and please try to read through the things ice already stated I'm repeating myself quite a bit with duplicate info.
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 Posted 03/24/2023  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please make the XRF test then you has the answer.
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What you posted from Heritage is exactly the link I posted. Exactly where does it say 75% copper 25% silver? It doesn't! It says the coin is struck in the silver alloy composition associated with the type two design bearing a large P mintmark above Monticello. I will bow down and apologize in the middle of Times Square if you can show me where it says 75% copper 25% silver! Please highlight it. I wish you the best of luck with your coin, but sorry, it 100% normal.
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