Coin Community Family of Web Sites Live Coin auctions starting as low as $1
Like us on Facebook! Subscribe to our Youtube Channel! Check out our Twitter! Check out our Pinterest!
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.
Welcome Guest! Need help? Got a question? Inherit some coins?
Our coin forum is completely free! Register Now!

HI First Time Post I Need An Opinion On This Example 1970 S Lg Dt DDO Not Sure On Sending Coins In

Next Page | Last 15 Replies
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 23 / Views: 952Next Topic
Page: of 2
New Member
United States
10 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2023  4:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Little Fish to your friends list Get a Link to this Message


Bedrock of the Community
United States
10635 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2023  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please show us a the entire coin both sides. Thanks.
ça va bien aller

Bedrock of the Community
United States
50122 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2023  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

What attribution number? http://varietyvista.com/
http://doubleddie.com/
John1
( I'm no pro, it's just my humble opinion )
Searched 6.5 +/- Million Cents Since 1971
New Member
United States
10 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2023  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Little Fish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply




FS-113
Edited by Little Fish
03/25/2023 5:33 pm
Valued Member
United States
377 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2023  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add I6609 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a proof cent
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
3388 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2023  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the CCF I don't see it. Wait for more responses, I'm not that good on proofs.
Bedrock of the Community
United States
11993 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2023  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Aye, a proof she is.
Valued Member
Learn More...
United States
335 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2023  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cointree to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I don't see the DDO FS-113 based on looking at the date and the WE in IGWT. It is a subtle DDO to match to, but there is some notching and wideness on FS-113 that I do not see on your coin.
New Member
United States
10 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2023  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Little Fish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for the replies
New Member
United States
10 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2023  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Little Fish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im 100% on my arbitration just would you send him off to be preserved ?
Bedrock of the Community
Learn More...
United States
18215 Posts
Pillar of the Community
United States
569 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2023  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CJ18850 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Pretty coin. Not seeing a DDO.
~Charlie

Proud ANA Member #3193
2018 - present.
New Member
United States
10 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2023  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Little Fish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did not ask for opion on my find I asked should it be preserved focus
Pillar of the Community
United States
8976 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2023  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An easy way to get immediate answers as to whether you have a doubled die, RPM, or OMM. Find them all listed here:
www.varietyvista.com

Scroll down, find the e-book for the coin you are looking for and take the links.

If yours is not listed then you probably have non-collectable doubling such as Machine Doubling or Die Deterioration Doubling (search these topics on this forum and at error-ref.com).
How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash?
Download and read: Grading the graders
Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halves
https://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2
New Member
United States
10 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2023  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Little Fish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
look in ngc it rest in their reccirnized list
Pillar of the Community
United States
8976 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2023  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You said:

Quote:
Not Sure On Sending Coins In


Thinking of Slabbing? Make sure you understand the Facts...or You Could Lose Money.

-or-
The Insider's Guide to Using Grading Companies


Popular mistaken mindset:
1. The grading companies are not a method/way that the majority of people, even those with a great deal of experience who know what they are doing, are going to be able to use in order to make huge personal profits. Many people start using grading companies thinking they will find a way to finance their hobby, but they learn a hard lesson quickly.

In general, the coin you have found in circulation is NOT going to make huge profits if slabbed. Way too many people pad the pockets of the companies and get nothing in return b/c they THINK (youtube videos!) they have something rare.

Professional predicting not possible:
2. Watch videos where experienced dealers get slabbed coins back from the grading companies. Note even people who live, eat, breath, and deal coins for a living can accurately predict what grade the companies will give. And...the "fault" (not really a fault) is in a widespread mistaken perception people get from being exposed to all the slabs being sold nowadays:

a. Coin grading companies are a business out to make a profit - this is why they exist. They use a system where allegedly three, but in reality it's normally two (read the guarantee carefully), graders look at each coin and give an opinion. The company videos showing the process make you believe this is a relaxed and paced process of studying each coin. In fact one PCGS video shows a number of guys sitting around a table discussing what they think a specific coin should be graded as (on youtube somewhere - sorry no link). Uh uh.

b. If you take a PCGS graded coin slabbed as MS64, break it out, and resubmit it to PCGS, you are never guaranteed the same grade again. The slabbed coin might come back MS62 (extreme and a bad day for graders), 63, 64, 65, 66 (extreme and a great day for you!). This is b/c the process is all subjective: No scientific/verifiable standards or methods are used. This subjectivity makes for greater company profits since people resubmit the same coin trying to get a higher (better price when selling) grade. In the 90s the companies, at great expense, created better (their own words) scientific methods not relying upon human opinion. No doubt the large profit from the re-slabbing game fell. The companies abandoned the science and went back to their less accurate systems.

c. It needs be mentioned that the fewer the "money grade" slabs a company assigns, the more prices of said slabs climbs. Thus more business is generated b/c more people pay to slab coins hoping to get that "money grade" slab. And the companies do keep records (accessible online) of how many of the higher graded slabs exist for each coin. While the idea of keeping money grade slabs minimized is speculative, there has been some convincing evidence of this being reality.

But..this is all hearsay without proof. So...

Grading the coin graders:
http://goccf.com/t/346174#2967242
Here is another good read from someone there at the start of the grading companies:

Hobby negative impacts from slabbing companies
http://goccf.com/t/130186

Error on errors:
3. People also seem to think grading companies will examine a coin to see if they can find an error and then slab it as such. But again, they ONLY GRADE coins. The companies will NOT try to find and ID an error for you. You must FIRST ID the error yourself, CHECK to see if the company you want to use recognizes that specific error, PAY them to verify the error on the label, and then you may or may not actually get what you pay for! The companies have a bad reputation for attributing errors incorrectly.

Link to and read (download if you want it) the pdf link in my signature as an eye opening example. Sadly, the verifiable data presented from the PCGS website shows trusting people have spent thousands of dollars on many slabbed coins that are not what the companies claims/slabbed the coins to be.

Cost concerns:
4. B/c people do not understand the businesses, so very many people end up with spending far more money to slab a coin than the coin is worth. The companies profit greatly with membership fees, submission fees, insurance fees, priority shipping fees and extra (chosen) fees. When you do the math for all of these fees you are approaching $150-200.00 for a slabbed coin the very first time you submit. ANACs does not have all these fees though.


You don't have to throw in the towel over these companies...but education about the reality of them will put you on the right pathway to dealing with them in a legit way without losing money in the process.
How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash?
Download and read: Grading the graders
Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halves
https://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2
Edited by Earle42
03/25/2023 8:52 pm
Page: of 2 Previous TopicReplies: 23 / Views: 952Next Topic  
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.





Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2023 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2023 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.4 seconds to rattle this change. Powered By: