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Found In My Till @ Work: 1978 Quarter, With Queen's Head Stamped Upside Down

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Hey y'all, I'm a cashier, and my boss is cool enough to let me swap one of my own regular coins with a cool one I find in the register, so I end up with a lot of interesting change. This one though, I can't find any info on it online, and neither can my boyfriend.

It was definitely minted like this, with the indentation and upside down-ness of the Queen's head and the caribou's antlers. If it had been damaged post production, then her face wouldn't be upside down inside of the indentation right?

Just wondering if anyone knows anything about this, cz I'm so curious and I totally want to know. Is it worth anything? (Even if it's worth a hundred, I will be keeping it, cz its so cool.) Has anyone ever seen this before? Is it rare, or just a junky minting job? Nobody I've talked to IRL has seen one like this, so I figured I should come ask here. All my other wierd coins I've been able to find info about online, but this quarter has no answers about it anywhere as far as I've seen.

Thanks everybody!!!
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to the CCF, canadiancoin321!
This could not have happened during the minting process. It looks like someone cut a circular section from your coin, rotated it, and affixed it back in place.
edit: I bet that if you poked that circular section it would pop out.
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I would have to agree that it's intentional post mint damage, but it's a heck of a conversation piece!
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To Mr Hondo: No, actually, I've banged it with a hammer, pressed on it with my fingers, and that circle does not pop out. If I could figure out how to add a video to this post, I can show you in great detail how well fixed into the coin the circle is. It has not been fully pushed through, based on my observations. There is a couple mm indentation, and a couple mm projection on each side of it, but if it were fully removed, and put back in, whoever did this must be extremely talented at welding tiny things together without a trace.
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I've figured out how to post a video. I will upload the video of this coin on youtube tomorrow, with close ups of the coin & its circle, pressing it with my finger, using a hammer to whack it, etc. I really wanna know what you guys think about this.
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 Posted 03/13/2025  04:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TuomoS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No need to post video. Just made up piece. Pressed out circular part that seems to been friction welded back ,value is only , value of ime, someone wan´t to use talking about it .Maybe good to show at bar after closing hours
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This is a damaged coin. It did not leave the mint this way. However it was made does not really matter as its value is only as a novelty.

I do say a really cool novelty however.
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Yes, post-strike damage--in this instance, deliberately done in a rather clever way. The coin didn't exit the striking chamber looking like that. And yes, a cool novelty.
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And how do you propose a die did that?
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I think that it was cut with a circular hole saw and then soldered back in place, rotated
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I have seen this before, someone must have made a couple of them to try and pass off as errors.
That someone has cut out a circle area of the quarter and rotated it.
Just look at the rough edges around the circle.
There is no possible way for this to have happened during the striking of the coin.
Keep as a novelty but it has no numismatic value.
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I would have to agree that it's intentional post mint damage, but it's a heck of a conversation piece!
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With today"s tech like laser or water jets cutting tools can do this with precise same effect as this coin, kind of a crude example for 1978 era
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Don't forget Wire EDM - if they had used this, at the cost of sacrificing a coin, it would be almost impossible to tell...

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Thanks for the video, BStrauss3 - I was unfamiliar with that technology. I can envision many shenanigans with it.
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Story time. As a machinist for a career, the most impressive example of craftsmanship I ever saw was shown to me by an inspector who got the parts from a very old source. It was a piece of steel 1/2" thick with a 1" square hole in it. The 2nd piece was a 1" cube. 1X1X1. The cube passed through the hole in all 3 orientations of the cube. Big deal right. Well, he held it in his had for a few minutes, and not one orientation could pass through the hole. The expansion from body heat made the cube too big to fit the hole. Impressive.......wait for it......both parts were made with.... a file!. Blew my mind.
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