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For those that keep coins in one at a bank, what happens in the event of your death? Do you have a spouse, attorney, or other trusted person who has access to the SDB?

I have heard that a court judge can have the box sealed until the "rightful owner" of it's contents can be verified.
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My other half has full access to the box (and she is well versed on what the coins are worth ;-) ) Now, God forbid we both perish, I hope someone in my family would be sufficient. I'm going down there tomorrow. I'll talk with my banker.
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I think when you feel out the info at the bank it asks who your next of kin is, if not you have to show some legal paper work on being executer of a will.
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I've worked at a bank for 5 years now and I believe that the box is 'frozen' for 2 years by the bank, unless there is a cosigner or its contents are allocated in a will. During the two years, the bank must try to locate family of the account owner. After two years are up, the bank can drill the box and empty the contents. Contents are usually auctioned or sold and become assets for the bank.
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Very simple solution that I believe will fly for any state

Notate in your will a beneficiary of the contents of the SDB. Also be sure to list an alternate just in case that 747 that lands on a 7-11 takes you both out at the Slushie machine at the same time.

Second have a detailed inventory and instructions inside the box so that if a non collector happens upon them they know what they are worth and what to do with them.

Now for any of you loaners out there I'd be More then happy to take on the responsibility
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1. Have other relatives added on to the boxes records of people that have access. However, note you normally only get 2 keys so you would have to either give them one or make sure they know where your keys are.
2. If you add relatives, friends, etc to that box, hopefully they are honest or you could end up with an empty box.
3. If you add a wife, Married Son or Daughter, and a divorse occurs, make sure you notify the bank to remove them from the boxes records.
Usually takes a personal appearance.
4. Contact an attorney for what is noted as a living trust will. This will document your safe deposit box, it's approximate contents, and who should acquire this merchandise.
5. Contact an attorney for a standard, after departing type will and be sure it documents safe deposit boxes.
Now what I always wonder is just who at banks all over the world has someone looking through all the papers for who died so they can check to see if they had a Safe Deposit Box that needs to be sealed?
The best and safest method is to just send all your coins to me and stop worrying about the future.
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I've been warned that even if there is a will, this could still warrant "red tape" and "time" for someone to get it.

The EASY solution is : At any time, take a relative, loved one, or whoever you like down to the bank and have them fill out the necessary paper work to have "legal right" and "access" to your S.D.B's....then, in the event of your death, all they have to do is go down and close it out and take the things in there. They are "pre-paid" for one year.....so...you can say what happened at that time and that there will be no "renewal" at the end of the 12 month period.
If you do not do this........no matter what "else" you do, including a will, you run the risk of running into a lot of time and red tape before the stuff can be taken out by someone else.
This is what the banker told me anyway.

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I've been browsing on state surplus website that has their own auctions and there are coins on there all the time. A fellow collector and I were going to try to bid on the huge lot of 161 peace and Morgan dollars and 3 gold maple leaves. Now we put in a decent bid at $4K, but for some reason the guy who runs the collectibles department of the surplus had an imaginary reserve that they do not tell anyone about and we didn't get it. They don't do this to any of their non-collectible auctions.

Sorry for going a little off topic.

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Every state has different rules, but the rules when I worked in a bank were:
1) there was only one owner allowed, other signers were (basically) just powers of attorney.
2) In the event of the death of the owner the box the box is sealed and must be opened with reps of the tax dept, a notary & a bank officer.
3) The box is inventoried for estate filing purposes.

4) Important: Collectible coins & currency are okay, BUT: cash is considered unreported income, and a receipt is made out, and it is expected that the decedent did not report the income and must file a tax return for the funds.

Good luck.

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07/22/2009 09:05 am
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I've been warned that even if there is a will, this could still warrant "red tape" and "time" for someone to get it.



Every state is somewhat different with banking rules. However, if you look into it you'ld find what is called a living trust takes care of all the stuff. Other rules should be looked into though if your just planning on what is in the future.
Now I'm here in one state, my Son and his wife are in another state. I simply got the proper forms, sent them to them, they filled them out and I returned them to the banks where I have those boxes. No problems at all. Now they both are co-owners of those boxes. I also have what is called a living trust type of will. If something happens to me, everything automatically goes to my Son and/or his wife. Not taxes, no problems, no nothing. It's just as if they were living with me and just took over everything. No waiting, no problems. They are then the owners of those boxes. actually they don't even have to notify the banks that I'm not around anymore.
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Simplest solution for not just SDB's, but all estate planning: the living trust. Simply designate who the trustees will be in the event, deed all major holdings (real estate, bank accounts, financial investments, etc) to the trust.
My Mother did this. When she passed it was 30 minutes in a lawyers office and that was that for the inheritance part. Living trusts are not probated, either, and are pretty much untouchable so far as disputes etc go. The #1 way to ensure your wishes are followed. See an estate planner today, your inheritors will be glad you did.
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One thing I did think about is what if you do have others placed on as co owners of a safe deposit box. Then you get into an argument with them and they go empty out your box. HMMMMMMM. Just one more thing to think about.
Now here is another thought. You place both your name and your wife's name as owners. You now get a divorse. Can you have her name taken off that box? Or does she have to remove it if she hasn't emptied it yet?
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I think you have your better halfs name on the box; if not, that may be reason for divorce.
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Possibly another solution to all this is to see someone that practices witch craft. Have them rig it up for you that when you die you could still access your safe deposit box one more time. Empty it all out, place in a postal mailer, place my name on that box. Then go rest in piece.
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My wife is on the account and the box is specified clearly in my family trust.....no problems for me.
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