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Bedrock of the Community
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WooHoo! This is the last coin I need for my B1 reverse set and I am wondering what you all think this thing will grade. I will probably send it to NGC since I have a few others going to them in the next couple of weeks.   |
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Pillar of the Community
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Nice one Bryan, I would say MS65 on that one.
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I would say MS64. Hair above the ear seem to be worn a little.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I really dont care what grade it is I am just glad I can finally finish my B1 reverse Registry set, I just figured I would post it and let everyone guess and when I got it back from NGC I would post the grade. I have been searching for this particular VAM for about 6 months Edited by Bryan1315
07/02/2006 8:39 pm
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Rest in Peace
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Bryan, first, CONGRATULATIONS on finding the VAM-81! I know you'd been burning the midnight oil looking for one in decent condition.
Grade-wise, I'd estimate MS-63 or MS-64 from NGC. I think there's a few too many skid marks on Liberty's face to reach MS-65, but you never can tell.
Query: If the Morgan comes back MS-63, how will this affect your Top Gun status with B1's? MS-64 or MS-65?
Bon chance, mon ami!
Fred
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well I will still be #1 in the registry, if it does come back a 63 I will probably just keep looking like I am doing to replace the MS-62 VAM-82 I have, I just purchased a VAM-84 EDS in MS-64 to replace my MS-62 in that one as well. PCGS has only graded 1 above MS-63 and NGC has graded 1 63 and 1 64 so far so in will be tickled pink with a 63 to tell you the truth. Oh yeah and it will be the cheapest coin in the whole set because I paid 30 bucks for it
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Bedrock of the Community
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If it comes back a MS-63 I will be 1492 points ahead of the guy insecond place, if it comes back a MS-64 I will be 1834 points ahead
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07/02/2006 10:34 pm
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Originally posted by Bryan1315
If it comes back a MS-63 I will be 1492 points ahead of the guy insecond place, if it comes back a MS-64 I will be 1834 points ahead
I guess, then, you're not too worried about staying Number One.  As long as it doesn't come back "cleaned"... |
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even if it does (and GOD I hope it doesn't) I will still be 1181 points ahead of number 2 person. and it really doesn't keep me up at night unless the number pulls a MS-66 out of his rearend sometime soon
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The coin is an easy 64 based on technical merits, but that gouge under her eye is awfully prominent. I worry that you'll only see 63 from it.
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Bedrock of the Community
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a 63 sounds great to me, atleast the hole will be filled! shatsi a B1 is a type of reverse on a 1878 Morgan, it is the exact same as a 8TF or 7/8 TF but it only has 7 TF's , it has a long nock (arrow shaft) like the 8TF morgans and theer are a VAM-70 (which is a TOP 100 Morgan), VAM-79 (which is a HOT 50 Morgan),VAM-80, VAM-81, VAM-82, VAM-83, VAN-84 EDS, and VAMN-84 LDS with a Clashed E on the reverse, There is also a VAM-84a (which NGC doesn't attribute yet) which has a clashed "N" on the obverse and the clashed "E" and a clashed "M" on the reverse (the M being from the designers intiials on liberty and the E coming from the E in LIBERTY) If you will go here and scroll down you will see all the different B1 reverse morgans I have them pictured and have shown the differences between all of them https://goccf.com/t/4651&SearchTerms=vam-70Edited by Bryan1315
07/04/2006 4:09 pm
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Bryan, it occurs to me that you're in a position to possibly describe a new VAM. You occupy a very narrow specialty which few others also collect and certainly have the knowledge and eye for a new variety. Do you go through enough '78 Morgans to be able to find a new one? Fred |
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I look through every 1878 I can, I am always looking through all online auctions and alot of online stores studying each and every one of them. I have ebay notify me every time a 1878 is up at auction (which I am sure you do for 1921's). I just wish the 1878 was as affordable as the 1921's because I would have alot more in hand to study |
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Nah, I just subscribe to the Carson City Morgan series from ebay's notification system. And Flying Eagle cents. Keeps me on top of the market and I'm always looking for bargain basement prices on CC upgrades, e.g., a certifiable Mint State 1889CC for less than a hundred bucks. [:0]  With qualifications, I let the post-1899 Morgans go by. Like you, I'm specialized, but with CC Morgans; I've got the full set, but I'm not satisfied enough with it to submit it as a Registry Set, especially after PCGS gutted my '90CC and '91CCs, setting me back a couple thou'. If ANACS ever gets its Registry Set system going, I'll go with them. I eventually may get into the CC VAMs, but not for awhile with a Jeep GC which needs a complete new rear axle and diffy. Gotta do lots of non-coin ebay selling this fall. I was pretty sure you'd be on top of the 78 Morgans. I've never heard of anyone as knowledgeable as you on 78 Morgan varieties nor had such a complete collection in a narrow niche market. Frankly, I'm in awe. Anyone who sets a goal such as yours and sticks to it so diligently through to completion has my admiration. Fred |
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aight heres what NGC thought this coin deserved  But I have another VAM-81 that is unattributed in a MS-64 PCGS slab so I will be sending that one off to PCGS to get the MS-64 and will probably sell this one |
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