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SLQ Date Restoration Attempts Begin Tonight

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 Posted 08/28/2010  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vanbroj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not thinking that you could still by the same product, but might be able to find the chemical composition it was made of.

With google and all the material available on the internet these days , it might be worth trying to find.

Just a thought !
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 Posted 08/28/2010  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fatboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to look thru my old Coin World's from the 60's to see if I can find a ad for that stuff.
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 Posted 08/28/2010  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vanbroj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fatboy you have coin worlds from the sixty's ? That's just crazy !
You must have unlimited storage space !
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 Posted 08/29/2010  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To all of you folks out there eating popcorn and waiting on some more news from me...put down the popcorn before you give yourself a case of diverticulitis! I haven't had time to work on this lately, so I have no current news. Hopefully I'll get back to it no later than Wednesday.

I have done internet searches for that product from the 1960's and have come up empty. Like someone said, if there was such a product, it was probably pulled off the market for safety reasons.
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 Posted 08/30/2010  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vanbroj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fatboy , how are coming along with those old Coin World adds ?
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 Posted 08/30/2010  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fatboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only thing I found so far was in the July 2nd. 1969 issue for product's called SPARKLE DIP coin chemicals 5 different products Silver Brightner,Copper Brightner,Nickel Brightner,Silver Toner,Steel Cent Stripper and Neutralizer nothing yet like a date restorer but still looking.The address for this Sparkle Dip was in Van Nuys Cal.
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 Posted 08/30/2010  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fatboy - Please be sure to read EVERY ad in EVERY edition you have, just to make sure you couldn't possibly miss it if it's there!
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 Posted 08/31/2010  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was looking through some old silver I have and found a bust dime from 1821, holed that had something done over the date to restore it- the rest of the corn is badly worn, so it seems like it is possible for this to be done.
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 Posted 09/04/2010  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay...here's the latest. I picked out 4 quarters that I have NOT previously photographed or shown here. I applied a 5% concentration of nitic acid to each, waited for it to begin to bubble, washed it off, examined it thoroughly and repeated the process over and over until I did see something...and in each and every case I did eventually see something. I swear to you that my efforts produced a 1919, a 1920, a (probably) 1919-D and the following:

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All 3 of these photos are identical with the exception of the size. Do you see what I see? The "2" in the date is pretty plain. I think you might also see the back side of the 9 in 19. It's also possible that's a 3 to the right of the 2.

Here's the thing: I applied the acid pretty unevenly on this date. I had more of it concentrated in the middle of the date than on the ends. I'm pretty sure I can bring that last digit back pretty strongly but I wanted to show you what I had, right now, because this is the STRONGEST date (or digit) that I have achieved so far. (And please notice that this is a pretty well worn coin!) When I restore that last digit I run the risk of obliterating or weakening that 2.

I'm not even going to bother showing you the other coins because, trust me, you will NOT be able to see the dates in my photos...that's how weak they are...or at least that's how weak they are right now.

That's the crazy part about doing this...you never know if the date will get stronger or weaker with repeated applications/ I've had it go both ways. Maybe the 1919-P I restored (and there is NO DOUBT in my mind that's what it is) will get stronger if I give it a couple more applications...or maybe I'll lose it altogether. I am so tempted just to waste some $ and send it into ANACS right now and have them authenticate it just that I can conclusively say "it can be done!"

More later!
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 Posted 09/04/2010  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Americanamafia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok I know this sounds weird, but I am curious about it. Your black liberty may be good for this, suspend your SLQ in the nitric acid, like a dip, but when you make the acid, put some salt in it. Like table salt, my theory is that it will precipitate out the silver from solution (as silver chloride). It should be a white substance. It may help remove the silver more uniformly if it is constantly "falling" out of solution.

On a side note, I have been following this for awhile as you know and are going to talk to one of my metallurgy professors and get his opnion on it. I should be able to get back to you by monday about it.
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 Posted 09/04/2010  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wheatguy: What makes you say that? I can almost guarantee you that last digit is going to be a 3.
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 Posted 09/04/2010  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mafia: I'm unclear on how to go about what you're suggesting. Let's assume I have 2 ounces of 5% nitric acid. How much salt do you want me to put into that? Should the salt dissolve if I mix it around or will it remain in crystal form?

Also...if I dip it, as you suggest, I'm going to have a hard time seeing what's happening. That scares me a bit. I've been "painting" the acid onto all these other coins (actually, while holding it in my hand!) which has allowed me to keep a close eye on what's going on.
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 Posted 09/04/2010  12:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Americanamafia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
weerdsteev,

Sorry I should of been more clear. I am suggesting you put some nitric acid into a shallow dish, the 5% is fine. Like a ketchup plastic cup from McDonald's will work fine. Fill it up about a quarter inch of nitric acid, and sprinkle a little table salt in it, you don't need much just a dash or two so it dissolves in the acid, there should be no table salt crystals visible. When you have this cup concoction ready hold the quarter between your fingers and dip the date part in the acid for a few seconds (or however long you leave it on). If you start to see white crystals falling out of solution (AgCl) my theroy is working. That being said they would be VERY SMALL because of the extremely small quantities of silver we are dealing with.

It is just an idea to try and accelerate the process and make it react more evenly.

AND....I just hit 250 posts! :)
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 Posted 09/04/2010  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, I had a double reply and tried to delete one of them, and it somehow deleted both. I mentioned that it seemed like the coin was post '25.


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Wheatguy: What makes you say that? I can almost guarantee you that last digit is going to be a 3.


Kind of difficult to explain, it just doesn't have the pre-25 look to it. I may be wrong but the rivets on post-25's are different than pre-25 SLQ's, and yours just has the overall look of a post 25. There is a good probability I'm wrong, especially since you see a 3 there, and since I've rarely seen post-25 SLQ's with no date. Hopefully I am wrong and you've just discovered the secret to restoring dates on SLQ's.
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 Posted 09/04/2010  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fatboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Went thru several more old Coin World's today no luck yet
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