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How Many Of You Melt Your Silver?

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 Posted 04/06/2011  03:55 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add skwca to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey all,

i was just wondering how many of you actually melt your silvers. And or do you keep them in there coin form. Also do you feel that a coin whos value is = to its silver value no matter the condition melt worthy. The reason I ask is because the other day I came across a 1952 canadian quarter and a fish dime (forget the year :P.. dont hate me. I'm new.) both with silver content but not great condition. My first thought was to keep them till I had enough to melt into a one ounce bar. Then I was interested to see how many others I had in my old collection, so I found my old coins and took a look through. I found quit a few silvers all not in great condition but while doing so I got the collection spark going again. NOw I'm at a cross road, for some reason I'm having trouble with the idea of melting old coins. So I'm curious what the community does.

Thanks
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 Posted 04/06/2011  04:06 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That can be considered blasphemy here. It defeats the purpose of collecting as the coins have a history regardless of their condition. If a coin is unrecognizable then it's not an issue.

Go easy on em CCF
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 Posted 04/06/2011  04:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skwca to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah thats what I mean. at first I was like ooooh silver. then when I was looking at my old collection I just want to keep them ALL :P cant do. but it made me think how many ppl do?

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 Posted 04/06/2011  04:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From an investment point of view, the general consensus is that, unless you've got an immediate use for a slab of 90% silver, you're probably better off holding the coins in coin form rather than making a DIY ingot. That's because, frankly, we've only got your word for it that it's coin silver - anyone buying it would probably want to have it assayed so they would know for sure the weight and fineness of the ingot. Coins, on the other hand, come in pre-determined weights and finenesses - people know exactly what they're buying, even sight-unseen.
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 Posted 04/06/2011  06:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ayejay1974 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I never have it melted, I like it just the way it is.
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 Posted 04/06/2011  07:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Billie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I Keep it all!
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 Posted 04/06/2011  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On the one hand I don't have a problem with anything people want to do to their possessions, on the other I agree 100% with Sap. There is absolutely no reason to convert a readily saleable asset into an unrecognizable hunk of metal.
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 Posted 04/06/2011  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneBowl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know a few people who make jewelry that melt, but never have myself.
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 Posted 04/06/2011  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vinnycoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if you want to sell it later, I'd say keep it as coin form.

If you want a nice little ingot for personal enjoyment, then go for it! I've seen a few vids of people melting stuff down, and the finished product does look quite nice!
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 Posted 04/06/2011  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swrbxxx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I keep my coins and anything .999 pure
everything else I come across, chains, silverware goes off to be melted
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 Posted 04/09/2011  08:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add willy13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
don't melt.:)
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 Posted 04/09/2011  08:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rjkingston to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Melting old coins?

I'm with GO, could very well be considered blasphemy for those of us trying to put together collections

Any recognizable coin, I would not melt for reasons mentioned by other posters.
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 Posted 04/09/2011  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only thing I melt is queso. It would be tough to melt my collection as I just recently picked up PM's.
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 Posted 04/09/2011  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Danester to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it Illegal to Melt U.S. Coins?

Published June 26, 2006
Written by Alec Nevalainen

I get emailed this question at least once a week, sometimes more. It's a reasonable question, many governments (including our neighbour to the north) have laws that make coin melting illegal, but the U.S. government is not one of them... at least not yet.

Where does it say that you can melt coins? Well, that's part of the problem. It doesn't say anywhere that the U.S. government is ok with this. But, go to the U.S. Mint web site and search for "illegal". You'll get this result:

1. Is it illegal to damage or deface coins?

Section 331 of Title 18 of the United States code provides criminal penalties for anyone who fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the Mints of the United States. This statute means that you may be violating the law if you change the appearance of the coin and fraudulently represent it to be other than the altered coin that it is. As a matter of policy, the Mint does not promote coloring, plating or altering U.S. coinage: however, there are no sanctions against such activity absent fraudulent intent.

The keyword is fraudulent. When you take a 25 cent piece and try to pass it off as a Sacagawea dollar, that's fraud. When you take a Buffalo nickel, and scratch out one of its legs and try to sell it as a rare collectible, that's also fraud. But when you melt a pre-1982 cent, and sell it for its copper value, that's genuine and legal.

Also, silver refiners have been melting coins for decades. Precedent is on your side.

Does this mean you should stoke the backyard barbeque and smelt your loose change to make an extra buck? Someone will inevitably begin melting U.S. coins in a large enough operation with an acceptable profit margin. But, I'm not sure it will happen before the switch to a new metal composition for all U.S. coins. Most countries with weak currencies move to a steel/aluminum based coinage and it looks like we're on the same path. If someone decided to melt coins on a large scale before the switch, they could potentially induce a coin shortage. I'm speculating here, but you might get a few frowns from the U.S Treasury for mass melting despite the law.

Regardless, many people think it's a fruitless exercise. "Not enough reward for my time," is the common complaint. Spending time sorting through coins may not be too exciting for most folks and there's nothing wrong with that. I've read several articles recently where the writer practically ridicules anyone who saves common circulating U.S. coins and I certainly see their point of view.

However, this isn't difficult to understand if you lead a life of thrift and frugality. If a pre-1982 cent has a copper value of Two Cents, some people may not want to give it up until they receive full value. They might have to wait a while, but impatience and short-sightedness are generally not virtues of a thrifty person. Receiving full value carries equal importance whether it's selling your house at the highest price possible or redeeming a 30 cent coupon for milk.

Elbert Hubbard famously said:

Thrift is a habit. A habit is a thing you do unconsciously or automatically, without thought. We are ruled by our habits. When habits are young they are like lion-cubs, soft, fluffy, funny, frolicsome little animals. They grow day by day. Eventually they rule you.

Some people don't have a choice, they have to save their coins until they can be redeemed for full value (or much higher, depending where you think base metal prices are headed). A lifestyle of thrift demands it.
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 Posted 04/09/2011  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1a9c8k5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have bought a lot of silver. I started collecting for the sole purpose of making extra money. Like many others out there the "bug" got me. I still buy and sell coins but mainly just to feed my addiction to old rare coins. I deal a lot in silver bullion and 90% American coinage. I have never melted a coins before and I have never sold to a refinery either. I think its just as easy to sell a coin for its silver value as it would be selling it to a refiner. I would keep it in coin forum, but at the end of the day you are final decision.
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 Posted 06/08/2011  06:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That 2006 article is out of date. It is illegal to melt or export quantities of US cents and nickels.
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