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Why Buy Gold Coins Rather Than Gold Jewelry?

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Why should I purchase gold coins rather than buy gold jewelry? Is one generally worth more than the other?
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Weight and purity guaranteed with US gold coins. Generally a slight numismatic premium over non-coin gold too.
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Coins always going to go for a least a slight premium at auction. With jewelry you can often find items under melt value that you could take to a gold store and get more then you paid. Just make sure you know the purity i.e. 10, 14, 18, 22 kt it makes a huge difference in terms of melt value.
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When buying jewelry you generally pay for gold *and* for the craftsman's work, and the second can contribute a lot. When you are in need and you want to sell it it may appear that the buyer wants to pay for the metal only. Of course you may sometimes find bargains as throwbackid said. Recently I've bought my wife a beautiful gold necklace for only 108% of the gold melt value (what I consider a pretty good investment).
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as another member said, with jewelry your paying a extra premium due to craftsmanship and usually jewelry when you sell you get a lower price.
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Two reasons. Coins are easier to sell & will sell closer to spot than jewelry will.
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Just a speculation... When the value of fiat paper money inevitably drops to zero, governments may declare an "economic emergency". This will be justification for them to confiscate real money, such as gold bullion items (common gold coins, bars, rounds). Jewellery would be less likely to be included in a confiscation order.
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Just make sure you know the purity i.e. 10, 14, 18, 22 kt it makes a huge difference in terms of melt value.

You also have to be careful with fake hallmarks on plated junk
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You also have to be careful with fake hallmarks on plated junk

Same with coins... I've seen a gold-plated lead "Krugerrand".
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You also have to be careful with fake hallmarks on plated junk


That's for sure. I help my father all the time in his pawn shop and I see fake/plated junk with hallmarks all the time. The jewelry market is full of counterfeits just as much as the coin market.

Experience and education goes a long way with coins. The same can be said when dealing in jewelry.
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Basically, the difference between gold jewelry from gold coins is the level of interest. We all know for the fact that precious golds - may it be jewelry or coins always tend to increase in value over time that's why we acquire them as part of investment purposes. But in case of gold coins, a lot of us tend to purchase them because of its numismatic values. These values makes an add-on value on gold coins. Hitting two birds in one stone is the quote I always describe on some post here - It simply means when you buy gold coins, you get the increasing value of its metal content ; you also get the increasing demand by future generations of new coin collectors. Over time, new set of young coin collectors emerges while the supply of old gold coins remain constant, thus the law of supply & demand applies. Increasing value and Increasing Demand goes side by side on your favor over time with these gold coins. So in my own personal view, the level of interest on gold coins is much greater (x2)than gold jewelries.
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When the value of fiat paper money inevitably drops to zero, governments may declare an "economic emergency". This will be justification for them to confiscate real money, such as gold bullion items (common gold coins, bars, rounds). Jewellery would be less likely to be included in a confiscation order.


That's why I like the 2nd Amendment!

Seriously - when FDR made a law outlawing gold, he made a clause that allowed people to keep gold coins deemed to have a numismatic value. This is why I would prefer PM s in coin form rather than bars. I do not think even the current US administration would try to steal (ahem) ... tell people to turn in their coin collections (well... then again...).
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Coins have these major advantages:
Weight and fineness are always a known quantity. That makes coins much easier to buy and sell. Numismatic (collector) value is a bonus.
Gold jewelry is harder to evaluate. In buying gold jewelry, you are paying for workmanship, and you are unlikely to get that back when selling and similar outfits give you nothing for workmanship or precious stones that may be part of the piece
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Rarely, jewelry is worth much more than its gold content, and will hold its value.
This applies to pieces made by Cartier, Tiffany, and a few others with top workmanship and gemstones.
Usually, it's all been said before--you pay retail on the gold and any jewels, but upon selling you'll only get offers for the gold content--even diamonds will only get a fraction of their retail price*. Unless someone wants to wear their investment, it's far better to buy coin or bullion.

*Regarding good gemstones: they are like coins. You never pay for "investment grade" stones unless they are certified by a reputable lab. Only the top gemstones have any resale value.
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when FDR made a law outlawing gold, he made a clause that allowed people to keep gold coins deemed to have a numismatic value.

Right. The trick there is who is empowered to do the "deeming"? The government? Hopefully not.

FDRs gold grab was aimed primarily at the banks, where a lot of gold was stored. I don't think that there was ever a case where government agents showed up at a private residence and absconded with privately held gold. What really happened was that the government requested that private citizens turn in their gold for paper money and many did just that. Some people did not. Gold went from about $20.67/oz. to $35/oz., nearly a 70% rise in price soon after the grab. Those who did not trust the government held onto their gold. Now, that is a good lesson for us all.

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governments may declare an "economic emergency". This will be justification for them to confiscate real money

Other than admitting that gold is the real thing and paper money is worthless, what would confiscation accomplish? What does the gubmint need with gold?
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