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Can Anyone Tell Me What Kind Of Error This Is? Rare?

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 Posted 06/23/2011  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it was sanded carefully in the center of the coin on both sides. PMD Thanks for the extra images. It show what I needed to see.
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 Posted 06/23/2011  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rolhalo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nah I'm pretty sure it wasnt. like I said before how would that explain the break in the o"N"e?
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 Posted 06/23/2011  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rolhalo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks bryan didnt notice.
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 Posted 06/23/2011  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The exposure of the copper core along the reverse rim is a strong indication that the coin was tampered with. The center of the reverse design also appears to have been intentionally abraded outside the Mint. Besides the signs of abrasion, it also looks like the coin is warped -- slightly concave on the obverse and convex on the reverse.

At the same time, the N of ONE does seem to show the presence of a wide radial die crack. This may then be a genuine error coin that was subsequently vandalized.
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 Posted 06/23/2011  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rolhalo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is also another break in between the united and stated. both appear to come straight out of the flat smooth part on the back. Also there is no reeding on half of it.
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 Posted 06/23/2011  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The absence of reeding in a coin that is clearly not a broadstrike is another indicator of mischief. If you'd like me to examine in in person, you can contact me at mdia1@aol.com. -- Mike
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 Posted 06/23/2011  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rolhalo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tampered or not tampered I'm glad I found it. I never knew that error coins were actually collected to this extent until I found this website. I have now spent the last few hours sifting through all my coins inspecting them thoroughly. :)
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 Posted 06/23/2011  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mike Diamond just gave a very generous offer because I am sure if you Google the name you will see he is very knowledgeable and respected in the error world. I actually can't think of another person I would ever send a error coin to for an evaluation than him if I had a coin I was wondering about. And if he says its a legit error it is just as good as any TPG claiming the same thing on the label, his opinion is that much regarded as gospel in the error coin collecting world
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I didn't look through all your photos the first time, when I saw the baby I clicked off of it, but we did have some members here that did go further and saw all the drug pictures and stuff on your site so I have edited your links to show the pictures instead of the link because this is a family forum and we do not allow that type of thing on here and anytime we see links that are not family friendly we remove them as soon as we find them as this was done. Please refrain from doing this again on here
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 Posted 06/24/2011  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rolhalo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry about that I should have created a new album. Dont know what I was thinking. Wont happen again. Seriously though couldnt you have sent me an email or thought of another way to tell me instead of making me out to be a drug addict? If you would will you delete this I tried but couldnt. Thanks
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 Posted 08/05/2011  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was given the opportunity to examine this coin and discovered that it's a genuine, and very unusual error. It's a severe die subsidence error (sunken die error). The reverse die caved in, leaving a recess so deep that coin metal couldn't fill it. The presence of this recess caused the entire coin to warp, leaving the obverse face with a shallow, featureless depression. Heavy clash marks on both faces, and two wide radial die cracks on the reverse face, complete a remarkable picture.

I will be writing it up for Coin World.
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 Posted 08/08/2011  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rolhalo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again for posting on this topic. If it wasnt for you I probably would have believed all these other people saying it was just PMD. Thanks
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 Posted 08/08/2011  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for being persistent. Without it, the hobby would have remained ignorant of this exceptional error.

By the way, if anyone finds another dime struck by this die pair, please contact me. It's now at the top of my want list. :) -- Mike
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 Posted 08/08/2011  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augbauer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The affected areas seems to have scratches. It could be a PMD.
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Interesting Mike. I thought for sure PMD because the coin looked like it was dented at one time, then uneven wear set in but, just in the middle?
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