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How Does Tone On A Coin Affect Its Value?

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I think this is a pretty coin. But being so new to this coin collecting game, I'm not sure whether this affects the coin's value or not.

Thoughts?

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Well sometimes toning can increase the value of a coin greatly, but bad toning makes some collectors want to barf. But that's in the eye of the beholder. If you've been on ebay you have surely seen Morgans listed with rainbow and beautiful toning (which can increase value). Yours is another sort of toning (silver turning brown and sometimes black). Anyway, I don't think it will affect the value in any way, if people want to buy it cheaper because of its toning tell 'em to shove off!
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It's no secret around here that I dislike toning of any kind. I consider toned coins "damaged" as that's not how they were produced.
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Also, nice coin.
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I, on the other hand, love natural sunlight toning. My local dealer had some 2011 eagles in the window and they had started to tone red, which was really cool.
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 Posted 09/25/2011  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like attractive natural toning. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The main thing I think most inexperienced coin collectors need to be aware of is the difference between natural and artificial toning. Experience looking at many coins with toning and participating in discussions about toning will help a collector determine which are artificially toned which is a damaged and altered coin. Natural toning, in my opinion, does not equal corrosion or environmental damage as some people interpret it. I found this LINK that I thought might be an interesting read about toning on coins.

Your image of the 1887 Morgan dollar appears to be a scan rather than photo, I bet that the color of toning on it is more colorful in hand.
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Wow. Good eyes.

It IS a scan. I haven't yet learned how to take good photos of coins, so I've resorted to the scanner.

I've no reason to believe this, or any of the coins I've purchases, have been "messed with," as these haven't been collector coins, bought and sold. They all come from families who've had them in a shoe box forever and ever.

The tone on the actual coin looks a little browner to me than the scan. But don't trust me, I'm red/green color blind.
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to CCF!

I like natural toning. But as mentioned the dark toning isn't as attractive.


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I'm red/green color blind.


I bet it gets confusing at the traffic lights.
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No problem at traffic lights.

The red one is on top.
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, Lobby!


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No problem at traffic lights.

The red one is on top.


I see you're another young-un. Lights weren't always that way, it's one thing they made standard across the US.

Especially in small towns, they saved money by having two bulbs instead of the current 12. The top bulb had green lenses on one direction pair, red on the other. The bottom lenses were the opposite colors. So the top light was signalling both red and green at the same time, ditto the bottom, and both were on as the light was changing.
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Switching topics on ya'll:

- I'm going out on a limb and saying this one grades AU.



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I am a big fan of "variety" ...

while I agree that a wonderful blast-white looking coin is amazing (especially, if it is an old classic coin, plus 100 years old kinda thing), but I also find toned coins very attractive ...

I love it when I flip a page in my album and I immediately can see a plethora of tones shining-back at me => golden tones, red tones, silver-black tones, and yes, even those super-dark and nasty tones where you can hardly tell the date on the coin eventhough it is an MS-65! ...

=> variety makes the hobby even more interesting than it already is ... yes/no?
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Unless the coin has been kept in some sort of vacuum or under argon or something, I find it improbable that it hasn't developed any color over 80+ years, particularly when you're talking about pre-depression coins when it wasn't as common to save rolls of uncirculated coins. Any time I see a pre-30s, blast-white silver coin, I suspect it's been dipped. That's just my opinion though.

I generally like toning, unless it's really over the top.
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Dollars were the exception. Even in the late 60s, the gubmint had millions of newly minted $ piled in bags of 1000.
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I bet the mint wished they still had them now Bigfred
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