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The 1965 - 1966 - And The 1967 SMS Sets

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are the 1965 - 1966 - and the 1967 SMS sets
considered to be proof coins of just uncirculated?

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Neither, specimen I believe.
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They are not proof sets. In part due to a shortage of circulating coinage (after silver was removed from the 10- and 25-cent coins), the Special Mint Sets were produced in lieu of proof sets in 1965, 1966, and 1967.
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Ah! found the answer! on PCGS web page...

https://www.PCGS.com/news/collectin...of-1965-1967

The mid-1960s was a colorful time in American numismatics, with the United States Mint making a series of changes to accommodate a terrible coin shortage brought on by widespread hoarding of 90% silver circulating dimes, quarters, and half dollars as the price of silver rose. To lessen the cost of producing circulating coinage, the United States Mint switched the composition of the dime and quarter to copper-nickel clad, reduced the amount of silver in the half dollar to 40%. And to help dissuade the removal of coins from circulation, the mint temporarily removed mintmarks from all coins beginning in 1965. During that same year, mint officials stopped making annual proof sets and uncirculated sets, and instead focused on the production of circulating coinage.

But all was not lost for collectors, who were offered a new type of annual coin product called a Special Mint Set (typically abbreviated SMS). These Special Mint Sets consist of a single Lincoln Cent, Jefferson nickel, Roosevelt dime, Washington quarter, and Kennedy half dollar and represent a numismatic marriage of the uncirculated sets and proof sets.

It's both.. (kinda)
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As others have mentioned, they are neither uncirculated sets nor proof sets.

Per the Mint in a 1968 Press Release about the return of mint marks:

Proof coin sets, which consist of a specially made half dollar, quarter, dime, nickel and cent, have not been produced since 1964. Their production was discontinued at the end of that year so that full production facilities would be given over to making regular issue coinage to alleviate the existing coin shortage.

Beginning late in 1965, however, conditions permitted the production of special mint sets at the San Francisco Assay Office. Although these sets are better in quality than any of the regular uncirculated coin sets previously packaged by the Mint, they are not of proof quality.



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Quote:
As others have mentioned, they are neither uncirculated sets nor proof sets.


no need to chastise...
I was making a small joke.. as PCGS called them a 'Marriage of both uncirculated AND proof.

The quality seems to fall in between the 2 grades.

I just wanted to get a better clarification so I can document them better with my collection. and to make sure I'm not missing any of the older sets..
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@Dearborn: I wasn't chastising, just trying to help with a thorough explanation that would also help educate others with the same question.

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I call them "hybrids"
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Since they are not labeled as Proof, can not be called Proof I guess.
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They do have imperfections when compared to proofs. I have around 20 sets left that I haven't broken open yet. The 66 and 67 sets are encased in hard plastic which is harder to open which is half my reason for not opening at this time.
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@Mikem007,

I usually pop the SMS sets with my hands, there's a seam along the corner you can use to pop it easy enough.
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