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How many of you have one of theses?   |
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United States
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what does OFEC stand for?
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France
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To be more precise, it don't include countries only, but also territories, no ?
Martinique never was a country for example - nor Gough island which is part of england.
It's a great and fun way to collect coins - those territories are for sure way to never end the collection :D
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Norway
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I actually have a coin from Gough Island. Martinique also.
MathieuMa is correct, we should probably not call ourselves OFEC-collectors unless we stop at countries. I know I do not. So I am then perhaps an OFET-collector. Or OFEP, as I call them "Places" myself.
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...Gough island which is part of england. Gough Island is not part of Britain directly, it's administered as part of the Tristan da Cunha Area of the British overseas territory with the somewhat unwieldy name of "Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha". It's also an uninhabited, barren rock. I don't think the six-man weather station on the island really counts, since the base is operated by another country (South Africa). I'm told that some of the money raised from the sale of these coins and for the "coins from" other nearby UBRs belonging to Tristan da Cunha mentioned in this thread goes toward helping pay for research and conservation of the local wildlife on the islands. I only hope that's true, and it's not simply a scam designed to extract money from OFEC collectors. Whichever mint makes these, they sure don't do a pretty job. I don't think the Queen's nose actually looks like that. They're even worse than Pobjoy Mint in that regard. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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I think its the Westminster mint and I agree they are not well struck and a poor design
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That's the queen? I thought it was princess leia!!
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Hehe, should have been more precise about the british overseas territories actually - I didn't knew that place and was reading that on wikipedia :D
I suppose it's similar to Wallis and Futuna (for France)
So Litotes, that mean that you now have one coin for every country (and are looking deeper) ?
I was wondering, since when a country is actually considered a country ? (URSS is quite recent, I suppose it still is considered different from Russia for example ? Or Congo ?)
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I suppose it's similar to Wallis and Futuna (for France) Quite the opposite, actually; Wallis and Futuna has a native population. The Chinese-made coins in the name of Wallis & Futuna, featured on sites like joelscoins, are clearly and unambiguously unofficial. In fact, every coin mentioned on that page above the set for Vanuatu are of suspect status as "real coins". Quote:
MathieuMa is correct, we should probably not call ourselves OFEC-collectors unless we stop at countries. I know I do not. So I am then perhaps an OFET-collector. Or OFEP, as I call them "Places" myself. "One from every coin-issuing entity" is how I think about it, though "OFECIE" is hard to pronounce.  Quote:
I was wondering, since when a country is actually considered a country ? (URSS is quite recent, I suppose it still is considered different from Russia for example ? Or Congo ?) Every OFEC collector sets their own rules, but it's true, the further back in time you go, the more "obsolete countries" you will encounter. The USSR is one such example (though I personally consider the old Russian Empire and the modern Russian Republic to be the same country). I'm sure every single one of the hundreds of "German States" would have considered themselves to be separate independent countries. And if you go back to ancient times, there were thousands of independent coin-issuing Greek city-states. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Did the queen actually approve that portrait? Not very flattering.
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Did the queen actually approve that portrait? Not very flattering.  That's why she is looking so sad on this coin.  |
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So Litotes, that mean that you now have one coin for every country (and are looking deeper) ?
I was wondering, since when a country is actually considered a country ? (URSS is quite recent, I suppose it still is considered different from Russia for example ? Or Congo ?)
I do not have every country existing today, but I am very close. I miss a few countries, namely Burkina Faso, Senegal, St Lucia, St Kitts & Nevis, St Vincent, Dominica, Antigua & Barbuda, Mikronesia and Nauru. And of course, South Sudan. I have for some years been looking also at places not countries. German/Dutch/French/Italian states, Swiss cantons, former colonies etc. I do not have a clear answer for what is admissable and what is not. There is no generally accepted rule I have encountered. I have listed Soviet Union and Russia as two places, under serious doubt. I have done the same for Congo and Zaire, mostly because they are separate in Krause (which Soviet and Russia is not). I cannot claim to operate under a clear guideline. I go by knowledge + gut feeling and tend to use Krause as arbitrator if in doubt. I have changed my mind on occasion. Mainly, I guess I am trying to get as many different names on coins as possible. Places like Gough Island and Lundy are in my collection, but with an asterisk beside the name as they have never been legal tender anywhere. I am sure I have a few others that I am just not aware of never being legal tender. Perhaps someday I will do some serious investigation into classification of the different categories. |
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I too am a OFEC collector (or whatever we should call ourselves) but I am missing a few of the really tough ones. I go by Krause and what they list as an country. Perhaps Sap's 'entity' is a better name. But do you have examples from places like: Ajman, Ras al-Khaimah, American Samoa,Senegal (real coin from here) Anguilla, Tannu Tuva, Dahomey, Umm Al Qaiwain - U.A.E, Fujairah , Kiau Chau
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But do you have examples from places like: Ajman, Ras al-Khaimah, American Samoa,Senegal (real coin from here) Anguilla, Tannu Tuva, Dahomey, Umm Al Qaiwain - U.A.E, Fujairah , Kiau Chau
Was that a question for me? I have Senegal. The rest are on my wantlist. I do not classify them as countries, though. I have one category for existing countries, another for countries no longer in existence (like Soviet Union and Yugoslavia) a third for places never considered as countries (Isle of Man, Jersey, Greenland...) a fourth for places no longer in existence and not commonly regarded as countries even in their time (German states, Dutch states, Swiss cantons...) and a fifth for places such as Lundy, Gough Island and the like. So when asked about countries, my only "holes" are those listed above. As for what constitutes currently existing countries and what does not I rely on a geography book of mine which delves into this in some detail. |
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