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Who "Will" Be The Next Monarch For Canadian Coinaage?

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Queen E. is nearing the big 90 soon and we are all speculating what will happen within the next 5 years! In your opinion who do you think will be the next Canadian Monarch for our coinage? Bear in mind that the British Parliament is currently reviewing it's Constitution concerning giving male Royalty priority over female Royalty, so the Game plan may change.

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 Posted 10/22/2011  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add neweden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

The prince of Wales is automaticaly the next in line, that would be prince Charles,
The British Parliament may be reviewing its Constitution but to understand the thinking of the british people you first have to be british (notice I said British and not english) there is a difference, and they are steeped in tradition, so nothing will change.
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No disrespect to Suzanna Blunt, but the next monarch change on our coins will be a welcome one. I really don't like seeing Richard Nixon's sister on Canadian coins. We have, by far, the worst representation of the Queen on coinage, within the Commonwealth.
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 Posted 10/22/2011  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bmxboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I heard some rumors that its going to be Prince Williams but not sure
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Unless he passes away before his mother I have to go with George VII.
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I vote for a British Bulldog..... By far a much cuter choice ;)
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Neweden is 100% correct. It will be Charles, then William. The British Parliment can do what they will to change Primogeniture, but even if they do, all that will allow is for the change of the direct line...ie. going to a qualified "someone" other than Charles (ie William). To do this they would have to introduce a right for the current Monarch to name their successor. In my opinion this would never happen.

Either way, they would still need to abide by the Act of Settlement of 1701, which states the requirments (mostly by lineage) to be Monarch. This requirement could not be changed, as it cannot be legally altered in any realm, without the consent of all the other realms.

Sorry for getting long winded there!

I do wonder though if the RCM perhaps has already commissioned the artwork? HRH is creeping up on the 90 mark...but then again, the mint could always add a maple leaf to the previous years coinage if they get caught unprepared.

Just my 2 cents!
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Liz will easy make it to 100 guys, she will out live Charles
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The Settlement Act, 1701, is a cornerstone of the unwritten British and Canadian constitutions. Under this Act, succession is a matter of law, not tradition or choice.

Under the Act, the succession is the Prince of Wales, then the Duke of Cambridge (and any future children of his), then Prince Harry (and any future children of his), then the Duke of York followed by his daughters.

Given that the Prince of Wales (at a vigourous 63) likely has another 30 years left in him, it is probable that he will outlive his mother and automatically become King. He has indicated he will reign under the name of George VII.

Of course, he could always abdicate, and Prince William would automatically succeed him.

Any future changes to the Act would only affect Prince William's children.
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In my opinion the last nice image of the queen on coinage was in 1964, Also in 1965 Canada lost its real flag, If you want to see a really lousy image of royalty on coinage I found a 2000 Netherlands 1 cent coin roll hunting where the queen looks like Huckleberry Hound in drag
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The next king will be Prince Charles, most likely as George VII. It's a monarchy, there's no element of choice in it at all - not the people, and not even the heir-apparent can choose otherwise.

The only possible ways that Charles does not become the next king is if he (a) dies first, or (b) disqualifies himself by marrying or himself becoming a Catholic - or a Baptist, or a Buddhist, or an adherent of any religion other than Anglicanism. Once he becomes king he can abdicate if he were so inclined, but he still has to become king before he can do that.

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I do wonder though if the RCM perhaps has already commissioned the artwork?

I seriously doubt it. Commissioning of the royal portrait for coinage requires the consent of the royal person in question, and Charles would never give such consent while his mother was still alive.
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Charles becomes king by default, but will abdicate on account of Camilla Parker Bowles. William becomes the next monarch. William is young, beloved, and perceived as a positive ruler of a monarchy that finds itself less and less necessary as time passes. My 2 cents, anyway. I also agree with littlemoney, it would not surprise me in the least if the Queen lives to be 100 or more.
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in the context of the CHOG Meeting, about to commence in Perth, and for which Australia has minted a commemorative dollar, there was discussion on ABC news today about co-ordinated revision of the constitutions of fifteen countries where Her Majesty still has a role. Primogeniture was one issue, but the other was the Act of 1701, which disqualifies Catholics. Contrast that with the Australian Constitution, which states -
"116. The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth."

When I studied constitutional law, 30 years ago, the open question was as follows:
if a sovereign passes away, and the next in line is disqualified because of the Act of 1701, would that person nevertheless become King or Queen of Australia, but not of the U.K. ?

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 Posted 11/07/2011  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tevlon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
why does canada have to continue using the british royals on their coins? is it just a respect thing? why dont we use a different important canadian figure on each denomination like the states?
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Canada is a member of the British Commonwealth of nations(Dont you read your history books), and as such are entitled to display the Monarch on her coins, I for one am very glad of that fact.
If we werent a member nation we would be affiliated with the exited states where we would lose our sovereignty and trust me, you really do not want that.
Canadian coins are some of the best in the world, thats why I collect them..
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My vote goes for Mr. Bean
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